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[–] RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 16 hours ago

Sure I totally believe them, but I'll keep blocking data access to Microsoft processes anyway

[–] Dvixen@lemmy.world 30 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

I don't give a flying fuck how they try to explain it. I don't want AI driven anything.

Let people opt in to that crap. They have an app store, out it's there.

[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 13 points 17 hours ago

if they did that then nobody would use it, and then the shareholders would be sad.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 7 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

People are already opting in to use Windows though.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 4 points 13 hours ago

are being opted in. Slight difference.

[–] ibot@feddit.org 4 points 17 hours ago

Yes and no. It's still more a theoretical choice.

If you buy a new computer, you have basically the choice between MacOS and Windows. And if they do not want a Mac or are not able to afford it, the only only Windows.

Sure, you can buy computers with pre-installed Linux, but it's hard to find.

Now, with Hardware not supporting Windows 11 anymore, more people switch to Linux, but it's still a small amount. And many people do not know how to install linux. It's relativ easy these days on older hardware, but if one buys a brand new computer, there are often still problems with hardware that is not yet supported out of the box in Linux.

I think, consumers should have the right of choice for an OS at the moment they buy a computer. There should be the option to have Windows, a Linux distribution or no OS installed.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 34 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

It’s very easy to uninstall.

Step 1: Download Bazzite
Step 2: Install Bazzite
Step 3: Erase Windows

That’s all there is to it.

[–] msage@programming.dev 44 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lol.

Lmao, even.

Whoever believes a single word that company says?

Like why are we as a society normalizing lying about everything? "Marketing", "Public relations", even "Politics". All of which are ultimately pointless, as we don't need to keep buying shit, think better of corporations, and argue about same three questions over and over again.

Which is to say, fuck Microsoft. And everything they do. Yes, EVERYTHING. Including the open-source stuff. We need to break down big companies into much smaller ones.

[–] Bosht@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

I've thought this for well over a decade. Probably longer but I'm not going to do the math. Why the fuck do we have anti monopoly laws if they're never enforced anymore? Is it because they found loopholes? Especially with media conglomerates and horrors like Disney walking the land.

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 5 points 17 hours ago

Their loopholes are called "campaign contributions".

[–] LostWanderer@fedia.io 65 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Yikes, whenever Microsoft tries to placate people after getting caught doing shady shit...It always feels like an admission. It makes me happy to be on Linux, I don't have to worry about this bullshit. Though, I am now side-eyeing my Xbox because if they are doing this on PC, it's a matter of time before Xbox is infected by their AI garbage.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Already has been. During the Snowden revelations of 2013, it was revealed that not only was Microsoft compliant with PRISM, audio and video from the Kinect's microphone was included in the datasets stored and made available to the NSA and marketers.

I would not be surprised if the Xbox profiles and screen captures were included as well, just now repurposed for training data.

[–] LostWanderer@fedia.io 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Snowden revelations are something I forgot about, this is a valid observation that you've brought back to the forefront of my mind. It was one of the many times that Microsoft was revealed to be an unscrupulous corporation.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah, ever since I've never purchased a console (Only exception was a Wii and a 3DS, which I modded with homebrew and never connects to Nintendo's servers), because they are completely unable to be audited. Personal computers (and certain smartphones) can.

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

My modded Wii is the one console I'd consider hooking back up.

My living room is a modded android stick and a steam deck on a dock

[–] LostWanderer@fedia.io 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This might be my last time that I do buy a console for this reason; if I can't audit it, there is no reason to possess it! Getting a new computer with higher specs would last me for many years, and my old PC can be used for a personal NAS.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I will say buying older consoles that can be modded or don't connect to official services anymore (7th generation and below) is a lot easier to justify and to enjoy, but do keep in mind a lot of those can be replaced with emulation unless you have a particular reason in mind.

[–] LostWanderer@fedia.io 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Software emulation is where I lean, in terms of emulating games on my computer! That is a road that I will travel with older games, at least. Other games can be played via Steam's Proton Compatibility Layer, my GOG games run fairly well using Heroic Launcher (barring exceptions like Daggerfall). I don't have a real interest in deeper modding of consoles, it's not all that appealing in my opinion.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There are some tough eggs out there (PS3, PS4, and XBOX360 come to mind) to emulate, so there are reasons to mod hardware even if you prefer PC. I helped contribute to the RPCS3 emulator back in the day by using my childhood PS3 to provide data dumps and testing my own game rips to give compatibility feedback :)

[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 15 points 1 day ago

Just got two more people to switch to Linux today thanks to garbage like this. They're doing my evangelizing for me.

[–] Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

I wish the EU would require Microsoft to release the latest desktop (no cloud subscription required) version of Office for Linux (and broad, open ended criminal liability if they try any tricks).

I cannot switch without a native, official supported version of Office.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago (22 children)

You could use a virtual machine or a compartmentalized solution like Wimboat.

[–] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 16 hours ago

if you use a vm, you still need a legit copy of windows (lol)

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[–] LostWanderer@fedia.io 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The EU would be the one to attempt to strong-arm Microsoft at any rate, since they care about their citizens. Making Microsoft create an Office version for Linux, is highly unlikely; as that isn't in Microsoft's best interests (despite it being beneficial for consumers). In my case, I can get by using open source software; LibreOffice Writer for general documents and Bibisco for creative writing.

You don't have to ever fully switch, there is an option to create a dual boot situation; a distro and Windows can coexist on the same machine. Or you could use Windows via a virtual machine when you need Office.

[–] Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Office applications (Excel, Powerpoint, PowerBI, Word) is one area where I can't have any friction at all, since that's how I get my income. I need the latest version of these applications for desktop, web version does not cut it and Linux emulation seems very spotty unless you are OK with using a much older version of office like 2013/2016.

That just on the Microsoft side, there is also Tableau desktop, some Adobe applications and even open source Windows applications that I rely on that don't have native Linux versions (Notepad++, Paint.net).

I am planning to buy a new laptop, might be worth trying to switch to Linux on the laptop and experiment with emulated Office solutions (while always having a reliable fallback on desktop).

[–] neutronbumblebee@mander.xyz 52 points 1 day ago

So that's what AI snooping is called now? How is it better if there are Microsoft employees occasionally looking over your shoulder.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 18 points 1 day ago

Still happy I switched to Linux. Been playing divinity original sin 2 without any problems. (It's one of those games I've started a hundred times but only finished once.)

[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago

MicroShaft is the epitome of terrible, evil companies.

[–] heavy@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago

Here's another signal that the AI bubble is desperate for new data. I believe AI is putting out more content than humans and so it's eating its own slop. All these companies are going to want to see everything you do to gain lesser and lesser benefits in new models. There's no way any of this shit scales.

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Settings -> Gaming -> Game Bar

Set to "off"

It's tough to remove the game bar cleanly (maybe impossible) because it's hooked into a lot of the xbox crap now. Yes I still game on Windows and took the Win11 pill because I like MSFS better than X-Plane and the last time I tried to configure multiple controller setups in Linux I gnashed my teeth and rended my garments.

[–] heavy@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago

It's funny because it's not like the game bar was useful anyway, what's the benefit of "gaming copilot" let alone the game bar?

[–] RustyShackleford@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Any other suggestions for Windows 11 users that haven’t had to use it since 8? I want to kill as much of their garbage as possible, but I feel like I missed so much of their dastardly crap I could be missing something.

[–] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 2 points 16 hours ago

Get Windows 11 ltsc if you insist on using Windows. All that stuff people try to debloat is already not present on the ltsc version, and unlike the consumer version its not a constant battle of updates breaking things or installing yet another new copilot app.

[–] pyr0ball@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

If you have the ability to set up and run a powershell script and flash an iso, check out tiny11

https://github.com/ntdevlabs/tiny11builder

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

Win11debloat. Thank me later.

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I just said fuckit and ran an exe called CrapFIxer. Not going to link it because I have no idea if it's actually safe but I ran it on August 19th and my gaming PC doesn't seem to be part of a bot network... yet.

[–] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Its probably safer to activate and run windows 11 ltsc after verifying the iso from multiple sources. No need for scripts after that and you don't have to worry about the next new update forcing copilot into another part of Windows for a long time.

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