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Trump’s administration is demanding states “undo” full SNAP benefits paid out under judges’ orders last week, now that the U.S. Supreme Court has stayed those rulings, marking the latest swing in a seesawing legal battle over the anti-hunger program used by 42 million Americans.

The demand from the U.S. Department of Agriculture came as more than two dozen states warned of “catastrophic operational disruptions” if the Trump administration does not reimburse them for those SNAP benefits they authorized before the Supreme Court’s stay.

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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 104 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Denying people their aid is bad enough. Now they're trying to take the money back.

I think they legitimately want violence in th street as a pretense for the Insurrection Act.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 24 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I mean that much is obvious. But they’re just being a lot more overt about it now.

[–] Invertedouroboros@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I legitimately can't tell anymore what even they think their trying to do.

Like... yall are monsters who think government shouldn't help people, yeah, I get that. But... like... if you want to speed-run violence in the streets, artificially fucking with the food's a great way to do it.

And... again... I'm just perplexed. Do you want the violence? If you wanted to invoke the riot act or whatever there's easier ways to do that that don't involve blowing up half the economy along with it. Is this a "principled" stance? Do you believe government shouldn't help people so much that your willing to stand ten toes on causing hunger riots? Or is this desperation? Do you want to loot that discretionary fund so bad that your willing to risk sparking a revolution to do so? Is the money even still there? Or are you fighting this hard against SNAP because it was stolen long ago?

On top of all of the rest of the anger and outrage, it's frustrating that there's likely no answer to these questions. Or as many answers as there are right wing chuds with their boots on the nation's throats. At least in movies the villian have a devious master plan. Here in reality it feels like we're speed running accelerationism and it's hardly even intentional. Just equal parts malice and stupidity.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 11 points 3 months ago

There is also the possibility that it's a principled stance towards executive authority. Like they don't want the precedent of the courts and the system in general successfully protecting people from them.

[–] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

been business as usual here sadly

thought it would have been done happened after the first missed reload of SNAP money

not to mention the workers missing checks

people here think just got vote straight ticket blue or red and forget about it like that is all that is necessary to safeguard democracy

[–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 months ago

A lack of violence hasn’t stopped them.

[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 33 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It’s not just the hungry people directly affected but all the businesses that those people can’t afford to use that are feeling the flow on effects. The economy won’t look to good after this mess.

[–] Eq0@literature.cafe 10 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I hate how “think of the economy” comes before “think about the starving people”

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago

At least on the most basic of levels these are the same thing more or less. You don't get people starving without a fucked up economy and that usually has further knock on affects, problem is the rich have directly conflated their own wealth with the economy for so long that some people act like they're the same thing when they aren't. I could wipe out Walmart tomorrow and while it'd suck in a lot of areas it wouldn't immediately implode the economy if you did the same to every small business in say Redlands California itd probably shitcan a solid percentage of the San Bernardinos county economy.

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 2 points 3 months ago

I mean, it comes after, but it's the more powerful argument with some crowds. No matter whether you're looking at the humans, the money or stability and safety: 42 million paying customers will stop being one and start being desperate.

[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 1 points 3 months ago

There are two economies, one for the small end of town and another for the big end. The small end provide a lot of jobs and depend upon people spending with them. Stop the spending…..

[–] SoloCritical@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Abortion? What the states decide, is the law of the land.

Feeding starving kids? Oof, catastrophic impact.

[–] Solrac@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Never have I ever wanted a greater calamity

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Based on what I saw at grocery stores on Friday, that SNAP money is already gone. Like "Gone" gone.

You can't claw back money people already spent.

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The federal government has the power to garnish wages. By now, everyone should have realized that, yes, they would stoop that low.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That would only make it worse

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes, yes it would. Since when have conservatives, especially this administration, ever tried to make things better?

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They try to make things better for rich racists 🤷‍♂️

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

Ahh yes, I should have been more specific. My bad.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 23 points 3 months ago

I want to see this man and the rest of these villains fall in the hardest possible way.

[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The grim reaper needs to get an uber to 1600 Pennsylvania ave asap.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

1 use per customers by association, vance already used on the pope.

[–] Zier@fedia.io 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This is a purposeful distraction to harm Americans and avoid the Epstein Files from becoming public.

[–] bagsy@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Those files must have some truly epic shit in them.

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

My guess is Trump didn't just fuck children. He trafficked them too. He complained that Epstein 'stole' one of his employees. And he owned a beauty pageant.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 3 months ago

his beatuy paegent was a well known front, erika was part of his paegent at one time or another. whom also ran a romanian orphanage she used to traffick children.

[–] Zier@fedia.io 3 points 3 months ago

I believe it has more nasty dirt than we could even imagine. These people were/are quite horrid.

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Next thing you know he'll send ICE to kick down the doors of poor families homes at dinner time and take away the food from the table.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

But that's already happening...

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

Good luck, I spent my $34 in SNAP benefits.

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

The regime: "We don't just want to withhold food aid, we want to threaten to withhold it, then give it to them but a week late, but then snatch it right back out of their hands before they get a chance to spend it. That makes the high we get off being cruel that much better!"

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Do you want revolts?

Because that's how you get revolts...

[–] moody@lemmings.world 23 points 3 months ago

Yes, they want revolts. That's how they get to claim emergency powers.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 7 points 3 months ago

Catastrophic impact: He's gonna cry and shit his diaper.