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First of all aren't audiologists doctors? Also where I live architects are considered engineers and saying engineering and medicine are non-professional is so absurd to me.
Also if people working in these professions could coordinate and organise a nationwide strike it would literally halt the entire economy.
Nursing is a no, but theology is a yes.
They’re rolling back women’s lib, one step at a time. We had 50 years. We weren’t even there yet and they’re taking it away from us.
Only if we let them. Make these bastards’ lives absolutely miserable.
Men who can’t handle their own feelings or learn to define themselves as individuals separate from a woman. And don’t have the wherewithal to enroll in therapy to figure it out.
That is MAGA. A reaction to women’s lib.
I guess if you're a theology major that's like becoming a professional in make-believe.
I have nothing against soul searching for personal betterment. That’s cool. It’s bizarre that it’s considered “professional” when an accountant, nurse practitioner, and social worker are not.
That probably depends on what style of theological study you are talking about, plenty of them are basically just historical literature specialist.
I think that a person who has decided to major in Theology has already passed the point where they're soul searching for the most part. They've already decided to dedicate a lot of time to studying the thing they've already decided is the answer.
This is exactly what our mess of a health care system needs ... fewer nurses. This is exactly what our uneducated voter population needs ... fewer educators. The downward spiral never ends.
As the boomers reach EOL... fewer nurses.
Actually it's a bigger problem than that. Birthrates are declining and have been below replacement rate for some time. Without another source of population (such as immigration) in the long term there will simply be more and more old people and fewer and fewer working age people to care for them.
Everyone who doesn't die young will get old, and as your body starts breaking down from age you're going to need help with things, and once the amount of help required exceeds being able to realistically live independently you're looking at a nursing home. With fewer healthcare professionals these nursing homes will become more neglectful and those employees who are present will be less caring due to sheer burnout. This is a problem which will affect everyone.
Disability is the only class of people that anyone can join. Disability rights are everyone's rights because anyone can become disabled!
I work maintenance at a retirement home/long term care facility and the outlook is fucking grim folks. I'm relieved that my parents will probably be able to afford to age in place, because I couldn't stand them living someplace like where I work. It is pretty expensive on the independent side ($6k+/month), and starting to become understaffed on the medical side, with little hope of attracting new talent to our rural, high COL location. There's a $3k signing bonus, great, that'll help with the $100k student loans from nursing school that exposes them to way better offers in more accessible places to live. I do my best to make life better for our residents, but even my team is 2 people short of full and corporate won't list a single new position. Here comes winter and heat runs failing because they haven't been serviced in 20 years, snow storms we'll have to plow with one less team member than last year, and the fucking flu/COVID. If you think COVID is over go ask the staff at a nursing home.
Sorry, rant over.
It is pretty expensive on the independent side ($6k+/month)
So I'm currently working my grandmother through this process and we stumbled upon the most cost effective option for independent living which is to hire a care person to come by 10 hours a week (cost my grandmother about $400/week for 10 hours per week). They're there to help with cooking and cleaning which are most of what an independent living facility would provide. Throw an emergency pendant (something like $30-50 per month) and you have all of the of features of a $6k/mo independent living facility for less than $2k/month over their current housing costs
I’m relieved that my parents will probably be able to afford to age in place, because I couldn’t stand them living someplace like where I work
I'm not sure what to expect when my parents reach that age. At this point I'm more worried that they won't be able to retire given their horrendous financial discipline. My in-laws seem on track to die young given the sheer quantity of alcohol they consume, the frequency with which they drink and drive, and their predisposition to riding motorcycles to go bar hopping. My grandmother however needs to be moved into a memory care facility ASAP because she is at the point that she really shouldn't be living independently anymore
Today I saw the new Wicked movie. Afterwards, as I usually do after a movie, I went to the bathroom and checked my phone to see if Trump was dead yet. If he died, I was going to yell "ding dong the witch is dead", then I was going to come out of the stall and tell everyone in the bathroom that Trump was dead, then I was gonna play "no one mourns the wicked" on my phone
At this point whatever Trump dies of is suicide.
Fuck that I want to celebrate the hero that ends this psycho shit
I sure hope it's the kind of suicide somw people commit by shooting themselves 3 times in the back of the head
And then falling down an elevator shaft. Onto some bullets.
It has also been reported that engineering, a business master's, counseling or therapy, and speech pathology will not be considered "professional" either.
Engineering is not professional? What a laughable sack of shit. We're going to have a lot of work ahead to undo this damage.
I look forward to improving our systems better than they'd previously been when trump and project 2025 showed up.
Seriously? Architect? Accountant? What exactly does the distinction professional even mean then?
Professional.... When you do it for a living and can live off doing it then you're a professional.
Hookers are professional at sexual pleasures. Porn starts are professional at making sex videos. One could argue that these are not the same. Yet both are professions in my opinion.
I really like the etymology of the word.
Thus, as people became more and more specialized in their trade, they began to 'profess' their skill to others, and 'vow' to perform their trade to the highest known standard. With a reputation to uphold, trusted workers of a society who have a specific trade are considered professionals.
-Wikipedia
Yeah I get that, but obviously in the context given here that that definition doesn’t fit what they’re trying to say. Like what is THEIR working definition of profession they’re using where such things as nurses cannot be referred to as professionals?
Thanks for looking this data up. I think you’re absolutely right on this.
Audiologists? What do they have against people being able to hear? This isn't a full list, right? Are ENTs not considered professionals too? Tell me dentists are also excluded. Optometrist? Is it really just this one specific doctor? I mean nurses are important, but I'll admit that society does not respect them, or other non doctor medical professionals, as much. The only word I could think of to describe them in the last sentence was professional.
92% of audiologists are women:
https://www.careerexplorer.com/careers/audiologist/demographics/
That is how the 1950s worked. Women were shut out of the workplace in favor of men due to the GI Bill.
It’s how we created a generation of angry, addicted, or tissue paper thin women, back in the day.
Oh they have beef with the deaf and I don't know why.
Hilariously Republicans are disproportionately more likely to have hearing problems than Democrats thanks to demographics (republicans more often work blue collar jobs which put them in contact with excessive noise far more frequently for example)
There is no other term for this beyond treasonous sabotage of American interests.
Is POTUS on that list?
What’s the consequences of this for those in those careers?
FTA:
"This means that those doing high-costing degrees, who may no longer receive the same amount as their degree may not be deemed "professional," could financially struggle to cover the costs—which could deter students from choosing to pursue those high-demand careers."
Who gives a flying fuck what this "man" or this regime says. He's a traitorous bastard that should be dragged out of office and hung from the neck.
Anyone about to go to college, this classification will determine how much financial aid you'll be eligible for.
Of course he thinks educators aren’t a professional degree. Fucker cannot read bigly! Even if we don’t have gud ejukaters nothing bad can happen, it can only good happen. Slavery and bible is frend.
This is so out there. "We're not interested in running things, we just want to offend people." It takes neither a prophet nor a doomsayer to predict that this won't end well.
Students doing certain degrees may no longer receive the same amount of reimbursement for their studies now that the Department of Education is implementing various measures from President Donald Trump's One Big Beautiful Bill.
One measure coming into action is that whether a degree is considered "professional" will influence how much reimbursement a student receives for their higher education.
However, there are a number of what many see as "professional" degrees missing from the new list, such a nursing, which sparked significant concern among nurses and nursing organizations.
“It has also been reported that engineering, a business master's, counseling or therapy, and speech pathology will not be considered "professional" either.“
Well, AI can do the job of an engineer - they are just code monkeys. (sarcasm)
But the one I like the best - business masters. Stick it to the CEOs and corporate execs. According to Sundar Pichai, AI can do that job too! Karma.
When will we be able to exit the world of stupid?
Engineer here:
If I could get AI to put up with a client/architect's bullshit I'd vibe code my way to a life without meetings that could have been emails.
Here is what is funny for me. I worked in public education for almost 30 years. All that time the state of North Carolina did not let me join a union but I could join a professional organization like NCAE. So now I am not a professional so can teachers join a union now? And after reading the article I see that it will be shutting people out of getting these degrees because they have to take out loans for graduate school and post graduate work. So basically those who are in the middle of studies right now can expect to be left high and dry next fall.
So basically those who are in the middle of studies right now can expect to be left high and dry next fall.
Oh I'm sure they'll have plenty of private financing options with far less agreeable terms than federal student loans. Its just the federal government privatizing student loans one step at a time and thereby making college (literally the best dollar for dollar investment a government can make into its citizens) less attainable