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While they were happy with what the fairphone 4 brought to the table, they seem to like what was changed for the fairphone 5.
What are you guys' opinions on this? A welcome change? would you get one if your phone died within the next year?

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[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 84 points 11 months ago (23 children)

I really wish another viable mobile OS would come out. I don’t want android and apple iOS is wearing thin on me.

[–] Fog0555@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago (4 children)
[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 24 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)

Perhaps next year will be the year of the Linux Phone. Alas, the same problems that plague the Linux desktop plague the phone. Lack of software.

It’s also very difficult to move out of the Apple ecosystem once everything just works the way you think it should. 

[–] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I'm quite interested in the developments on waydroid that would allow the use of Android apps on a Linux phone.

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[–] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 78 points 11 months ago (96 children)

And I give it a 0/10 on having a 3.5mm connector

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[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 54 points 11 months ago

If my FP4 dies in the next year, I will fix it. Because iFixit gave it 10/10.

[–] telllos@lemmy.world 53 points 11 months ago (7 children)

The number of comment that says " I would buy one, but" is amazing !

What this company is doing is what every company should do, from laptop to tablet. As well as tractors. Dot being able to repair what you buy is fundamentally flawed!

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago (9 children)

TBF it's not available in the USA, and a lot of us are in the USA...plus even if we got one, a lot of the bands wouldn't work, so it's not like you'd have a good connection with it.

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[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 51 points 11 months ago (2 children)

As soon as my FP 3 dies they will hopefully have a new phone with a headphone jack. In 10 years or so.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 11 months ago

Don't forget to let them know that at the various consumer surveys they send regularly. But I wouldn't hold my breath...

[–] Mo5560@feddit.de 16 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Honestly I'd probably buy a phone without a camera before I'd buy a phone without a headphone jack.

I was sold on the idea of a fairphone but that's a dealbreaker to me. I very briefly owned a phone without a headphone jack (borrowed from a friend while my current one was in repair), having to think of that stupid adapter all the time was hell.

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[–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 41 points 11 months ago (9 children)

I would buy one in a heartbeat if it was smaller.... My S22 barely fits in my pants pocket, and barely usable with one hand.

Still waiting for compact phones to return...RIP sony xperia

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[–] dog_@lemmy.world 38 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I want the headphone jack back.

[–] Sanyanov@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (16 children)

Lack of one is an immediate showstopper for me, too.

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[–] Melco@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Yes agreed. The headphone jack is a perfected technology. If a device does not have a headphone jack I am not buying it. Full stop.

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[–] jacktherippah@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (14 children)

I would buy one if they shipped globally and it was about 100-150€ cheaper. The specs are not worth 700€. I would also need official GrapheneOS support as well.

[–] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 91 points 11 months ago

The specs are not worth 700€

That's what those specs are worth if everyone who's part of it gets compensated for their work appropriately.

Imagine the price of a Galaxy S23 if Samsung actually was fair to everyone involved.

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[–] Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works 22 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I really like the idea of these phones and I’d really buy one of my employer wasn’t providing me a phone and allowing me to use it for my private stuff.

Of course, it might be expensive for the hardware, but just look at the price of a non repairable and non ethical iPhone.

[–] Streetdog@sh.itjust.works 16 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I'd jump on the Fairphone first thing if not having a single tie to an advertising/tracking company was an option. But here we are.

Also when visiting Fairphone forums, I get "This community is not accessible in your location."

It is still a business and a business is gonna business, thus never gonna be as ethical as one would want.

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[–] arc@lemm.ee 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (8 children)

I wouldn't say the Fairphone 5 wins prizes for looks or functionality but it does show that it is entirely possible to make a phone with a replaceable battery and repairable components in a modern form factor. If they, a small boutique phone maker can do it, then there is absolutely no excuse that Apple, Samsung, Oppo etc. cannot do the same.

One failing of Fairphone is you cannot buy the mainboard (the core component) from their store. All the other components yes, but not the mainboard. The core is not just the CPU, flash but also some other things like microphone are on it. It would also be nice if people could order all the parts that make up a Fairphone 5 and assemble one entirely from scratch.

I've also read through their ethics / green reports in the past, and while it talks it up with "supply chain engagement" reports and so on, most of their components are still made to order by Chinese OEMs so how far does it go down the chain in reality.

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[–] ruplicant@sh.itjust.works 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

this is great! i have a friend who needs a new phone and is ordering one, and i'm gonna get my hands on it to help him out and eventually flashing LineageOS on it if it comes out

i just wish they complied with the android stack security features so that it would be compatible with GrapheneOS. it would be the perfect phone

[–] JGrffn@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago (1 children)

For real, we need more phones that are compatible with GrapheneOS. Going to Google for THE De-googled phone is nothing shy of extremely ironic and borderline hypocritical.

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[–] kttnpunk@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

I want a fucking headphone jack, thanks. Also 3 full size USB ports, a physical keyboard and a inch-thick battery, because fuck you.

[–] CritFail@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Still no 3.5mm jack, still no dice for me.

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[–] v81@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago (5 children)

I like the Fairphone 5 but €40 for a case is unforgivable.

I'm feeling like it's a gouge because they know not many (if any) 3rd party cases exist.

[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 35 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you look at other recyclable or sustainable phone cases it's not actually that much expensive. It seems unreasonably priced if you compare them to cases that are not at all eco friendly.

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[–] DannyMac@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago

Hey now, you're looking at this all wrong: if you break your phone because you didn't have a case on, it should be easily fixable! ;⁠-⁠)

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[–] squirrelwithnut@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

I would totally buy one if they brought it to the US.

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 13 points 10 months ago (5 children)

I went with pixel 8 Pro and graphene os, but I did consider fp.

Can you even use a new fp in the US?

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[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

I would love to get one.

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