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The accounts being discussed here have pushed agendas within the US, and commented on US politics regularly. Many are also named to echo political movements, like some MAGA accounts.

However, these ‘political influencers’ have been found to be based outside the US, raising questions about the motives.

One profile going by 'MAGA NATION' with a follower count of over 392,000, is based out of eastern Europe. Similarly, ‘Dark Maga’ a page with over 15,000 followers is based out of Thailand. ‘MAGA Scope’ which boasts over 51,000 followers is actually operated out of Nigeria, and ‘America First’, an account with over 67,000 followers is based out of Bangladesh.

“At this time thousands of MAGA-aligned influencer accounts and large political pages that claim to be based in the U.S. are now being investigated and exposed with many of them traced to India, Nigeria, and other countries,” a news aggregator page on X noted.

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[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 193 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I do find it strange that this is surprising to some.

It’s been pretty obvious to us external observers.

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 77 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

At the time, the bot accounts claim was always difficult to prove. There were mountains of anecdotal evidence but nothing concrete. Not anymore.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 42 points 1 month ago

Yes; as with so many revelations, the facts shouldn’t be surprising, but the evidence is actionable where the assumptions weren’t.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 month ago

The thing that did it for me was several years ago when Russia disconnected the whole country from the Internet for a day and Reddit instantly transformed. Nearly all of the trolls in political threads disappeared, and discussions became nicer and way more the left-leaning.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Instagram is just as bad. Some accounts make provocative comments but never reply. Looking at their profiles as well, they have little to no followers or no post at all. It's like with Reddit in which accounts that are months or years old with no activity, and then suddenly become activated posting hateful single issues.

The intention is to divide the people so that powers-that-be hoodwink us while stealing from our pockets. Many of us know better that the posts are ragebaits. However, social media companies do nothing about bad faith actors because they benefit from angry discourse to inflate engagement and attention for more traffic and advertising. You wonder who are the people are surprised by this? It's mainly those who don't expand from their narrow experience and like digital brain rot contents.

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[–] homura1650@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

I'm surprised it is getting caught by this feature. I thought routing those accounts through a US based connection was table stakes. But, I guess there is no point bothering until people actually are able to see.

[–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 117 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The shocking thing here is not that there are MAGA accounts from outside the US, but that twitter introduced a feature which would expose that

[–] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 month ago

The thing about lying, is you have to keep doing it and be really good at it to never get caught lying ever again. Telling the truth is so much less complicated and avoids situations like this from happening.

Every new feature Twitter adds just increases the chance that they're going to undo something they've been lying about/hiding all these years.

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago

Melon doesn't think that far. He fired most staffs that would disagree with him, remember?

It adds to the fact his other companies like SpaceX are run by competent people and not him. He is just someone with very poor impulse control sitting at the very top, just to manipulate the markets.

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 90 points 1 month ago (1 children)

392,000 people were tricked by a person who isn't even smart enough to use a VPN.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago

Its generous to suggest 1 follower = 1 person

[–] Burninator05@lemmy.world 71 points 1 month ago (2 children)

...Democratic cicles...

Proceeds to list 4 MAGA accounts

I'm not claiming that left leaving policics is immune to this but it feels like there are a lot more prolific right leaning ones.

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

It's kinda funny really. Outside influencers push the right opinions because it will destabilize the country. But they do it by saying the left will destroy the country.

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Not the best headline in the world, I know. It rolled out in the middle night so only a few outlets across the pond caught wind of it first.

[–] DeICEAmerica@lemmy.world 52 points 1 month ago (7 children)

It's painfully obvious X is a cesspool of Muskbots and Russian seedbots accounts.

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[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 43 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The Fediverse needs to implement something like this. We already have a problem, and it is important to stop this before it gets worse.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It kinda already does. If you have your own instance you can see people's IPs.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That’s not the same as making them publicly visible.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I'm worried that the actors we most need to be worried about are more than able to hide their origin countries if they need to. I mean even I could do that if I wanted to.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I agree. If they want to expend the resources to manipulate public opinion then hiding their identity is not going to be a problem.

[–] khepri@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

On the internet it has never made sense to take someone's claimed location or identity as fact, it's been that way for 25 or 30 years and I feel like I'm going insane seeing so many people apparently realize this for the first time.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Some might actually believe me when I say I am a cartoon dog.

[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Dangit, I thought the internet was where nobody would know I was a dog

[–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)
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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I don’t know that your point makes much difference. The vast majority of people don’t care about hiding who they are; in fact, quite a lot want you to know so you’ll engage with them. A few of them may be of concern for whatever reason. The industrialized manipulation of social spaces would certainly continue to hide who they are, do there’s likely no change. Whole we’re going down this rabbit hole: In fact, faking your displayed location specifically to incite feelings one way or another is probably even better than hiding it entirely.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And what about VPNs?

Or what about rotating residential proxies?

If I want to, it's not that hard to fake your location

The biggest point of this is that Twitter was so lazy that these guys didn't even have to try to hide their location, so they didn't and cut cost

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[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Well, thats certainly helpful for every user who only interacts with an instance they run, and no other federated instances.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

People need to implement proper "firewall rules" in their brain's "OS".

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[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 43 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How long until he turns it off?

[–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 54 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Pretty sure he already did based on other comments I’ve seen around other sites.

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Well shucks.

Hopefully long enough for MAGA to question even a small portion of their existence

[–] MummifiedClient5000@feddit.dk 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Sorry, but introspection is woke.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 25 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Remind me of this book I own

This engine is woke

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[–] Rothe@piefed.social 6 points 1 month ago

That is not really a thing MAGA does.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 42 points 1 month ago
[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 33 points 1 month ago

“I hope that everyone sees, regardless of their specific reason, that the enemy is outside of the house. The people posing as Americans with big American opinions but are actually operating from a basement across the world have one common goal - to destroy the United States. We have our issues, but we really can’t allow them to succeed.”

Elon:

"Yeah, we're just gonna turn that feature right back off here for a second...nothing to see, don't worry about it."

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Odd that Xitter should be the dump that officially reveals this, as the reveal runs counter to their interests.

They just aren't that smart, only evil and selfish

[–] khepri@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

They need the faithful to get over this before the midterms, so it's being revealed now. MAGA will be fine with this, as they are fine with anything that boosts their movement.

[–] kelpie_returns@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

It is obvious that many of these accounts are bots or paid actors, but I wonder how much VPN usage has impacted these stats

[–] Linktank@lemmy.today 11 points 1 month ago

Gullible morons.

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 9 points 1 month ago

The MAGA followers are out of non-America. The Anti-MAGA leaders are out of non-America, or using a VPN.

Interesting.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Russian majority I bet

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Alexis Wilkins, FBI director Kash Patel's girlfriend, also added, ...

Who?

(the fuck cares what some two bit MAGA country singer says?)

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

Extremely disingenuous title. Not surprising, every time I come across the Hindustan Times they are slobbing the knob of fascists.

[–] H1AA6329S@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not that surprising knowing how much countries like russia invest in their troll farms and how much influence has been applied on Americans from the outside.

Good feature overall, Facebook has this feature too. I was not surprised that many nsfw shorts creators on the page are actually India or similar locations based. Making much of a sense, since the clicks are now generally being generated by using sora

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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh no! If we only knew how to put up another message board. BBS anyone?

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

How is that message board going to be immune to this?

[–] Minimac@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

Maga accounts need throw in trash 💻🗑️

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