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[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The problem is most of these subhuman screaming banshee lead-poisoned troglodytes have worked in customer service or actively do.

The issue is the people who treat customer service like shit treat almost everyone like shit and have no ability to develop self awareness.

These people operate with some form of deep social disorder (like narcissism for example), and think they themselves are incapable of wrong doing.

You cannot help these people. You can only respond with equal or greater aggression and socially isolate them, which is exactly what they deserve.

[–] musubibreakfast@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Alright, then we do mandatory retail conscription and screen for these types of people. Then we use a branding iron to put a giant A for asshole on their foreheads, sterilize them and ship them off to Epstein's island. They're they get weapons and are incentivized to kill each other for massive discounts on electronics and cash prizes.

[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I too have watched Running Man lol

[–] musubibreakfast@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

I was thinking Battle Royale but that works as well!

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 day ago

You really, really can accurately judge a lot about people by whether or not they return the shopping cart, how they treat "the help".

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 3 points 1 day ago

I would not survive this but I am willing to sacrifice as tribute to break the cycle.

[–] hayvan@feddit.nl 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This usually ends with people waiting for their turn to be assholes.

[–] BluesF@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"I suffered through it, so now it's your turn" - some strawman I made up

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

it's literally what happens.

[–] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 3 points 1 day ago

Like the kid who was bullied in elementary school who becomes the bully in high school.

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 94 points 2 days ago (8 children)

For me, the worst part of working retail at Christmas was hearing the exact same record played on repeat for eight hours straight.

It was years before I could listen to any Christmas music.

[–] BozeKnoflook@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I've never worked retail, but I loathe Christmas music anyway. I fucking hate going shopping in the US between October and January.

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[–] Tower@lemmy.zip 75 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

While I've subscribed to this philosophy for decades at this point, there is a possible issue that was really hammered home by COVID -

there will be a non-zero number of people who will be even shittier because "I had to ~~ensure~~ endure it, so they should, too!"

[–] Dicska@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (13 children)

Those kinds of people won't really be any nicer without this training, either. At least we can make them take it for a day. I'm still behind the plan (however, at a lot of places you need more than 1 day of experience to grasp how the whole system works and why some complaints are actually ridiculous).

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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 36 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I still think every person working a cash register should be allowed one free kill at work every year. People would be a lot more polite if they knew there was a chance they could face actual consequences for their actions. Would especially help around the holidays, as you dont know if this Taco Bell employee has burned his kill yet prior to the new year

[–] Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

Gonna need to up that to per day.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

it'd make those political campaign donut stops more fun for sure. can you imagine being JD Vance and hearing everyone shout DIBS when you walk into Dunkin

[–] Sunsofold@lemmings.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

One of my little ideas for 'fixes' for political problems has been 'if you get voted in, you have the job for life, but can be fired at any time,' as in out of a canon, at a brick wall. Better keep those approval rates over 66%. Donors come and go. The canon is forever.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

that sounds kind of like reducing vehicle accidents by affixing a very sharp spike pointing at the driver's heart to the steering wheel. it might work, but it's not worth the risk. sometimes politicians have to do unpopular things. it's like taking a potassium pill when your level is low. it helps, but damn if it isn't unpleasant.

[–] Sunsofold@lemmings.world 2 points 1 day ago

What risk? Sometimes government officials have to do somewhat unpopular things. Elected officials are just supposed to represent their constituency, though. If they aren't willing to take a risk to serve their constituents, they shouldn't be in a position of power. If you really believe it has to be done, and you really are in it to serve, you'll accept the cost/risk. If that scares you too much, you'll stay home.

And you can bet there'd be FAR fewer collisions if the spikes were present. Driving isn't a right any more than having political office is, so it's perfectly reasonable to expect people to accept the risk if they want the benefit.

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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

When I was a mid-level retail manager, my philosophy was that my floor worker's job was to take care of the customers, my store manager's job was to take care of corporate, and my job was to facilitate both. The best way to do that most of the time was to take care of and protect my floor workers.

Most of the time the customer complaints were baseless. Sometimes they were legitimate. But in all cases my priority was taking care of my workers. I may have had to coach them on something after the complaint (usually on how to better handle asshole customers), but ALWAYS in private, and always calmly.

Sometimes I had to do something for the customer if there was a legitimate issue, like give them a $20 gift card or something.

But no matter what the situation was, if a customer was abusive to my staff they were banned from the store on the spot. I'd trespass them, put their picture on a board for our greeters, and if they attempted to return we'd have polkce escort them away.

If they had been trying to buy a firearm (we were a massive destination outdoors store), we'd blacklist them in the corporate system and I had a text message group with all the nearby firearm dealers where we'd share the names of customers we'd blacklisted.

Nobody's business was worth allowing my people to be abused. I didn't care that we were losing a $20,000 sale - my staff was worth more than that, both from a basic humanity standpoint, and also because having a good, experienced, loyal employee is more important than having an unreliable asshole customer. And you don't retain good employees if you don't protect them.

[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today 8 points 2 days ago

If not retail during Christmas than the worst of humanity is on display weekly on Sundays when the after church crowd starts funneling into their favorite brunch spot. Every server has horror stories

Think I got gigantic person privilege, cause I worked retail for years while in college and everyone was super nice to me.

[–] tacosanonymous@mander.xyz 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I’d rather we just teach empathy from the get go.

American culture is one of individualism and that is such a shitty thing for society.

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[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, we should also have high schoolers visit a water treatment plant, sewers, work with garbagemen, work at a dump, a recycling plant, an electrical plant, several types of factories, etc

[–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

We went to all of these in elementary and high school! We didn't exactly work there, but I still remember it all, including the smells.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

That's rather amazing. I am glad but what that doesn't seem to be the case for most kids?

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I have said for years something similar but if you're in IT you should be mandated to spend a part of your year working on helpdesk and providing Operational support requiring on call. Too many CS wonks now in IT who come right from school into development and/or management pipeline.

[–] Digestive_Biscuit@feddit.uk 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I do agree. Also in my company (manufacturing) IT seems to be seen as a knowledge resource. People ask questions which isn't really IT, its more like "how do I do this part of my job which my predecessor didn't explain or document in any shape or form".

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[–] RedFrank24@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The only retail workers I've seen that appear to be enjoying themselves are people working in Games Workshop. If you express even the slightest interest in Warhammer, they'll be talking to you for an hour gushing about lore, and it's a remarkably good sales tactic because I've only ever talked with a GW employee once without buying something.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Warhammer folks are a different breed. I didn't even know there were physical stores that sold only Games Workshop stuff. I've tried to play once, emphasis on tried, but I think the minis and the lore are awesome.

[–] RedFrank24@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Last time I went to Warhammer World in Nottingham, I left with £120 worth of Lord of the Rings Miniatures, all because the guy in the store told me all about Glorfindel and how cool he was. I didn't even buy Glorfindel! This was £120 worth in 2005, mind, so that's about £214 today.

He's right. Glorfindel is the coolest elf.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean, at this point, it sort of is for most of us.

However, I expect the refrain would be, "I worked retail, and I never did that thing!" Kinda the equivalent of, "I have black friends!"

[–] TriangleSpecialist@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I was going to comment pretty much that exactly given the ladder-kicking behaviour of quite a few older folks. If anything, I'd expect it would create an even bigger cycle of abuse: we went through it therefore it's now our well deserved right to put you through it too.

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[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Jokes aside that can't really work when companies are private tho.

Like imagine Amazon has a strike going on so government drafts you to the unfilled labor positions.

[–] callouscomic@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago

As a former food service and retail worker through many jobs, the worst people are other coworkers, mostly meddling managers, not really the customers. The shitty management makes the job horrible. These asshat assistant store managers who get power trips and have no actual skills.

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