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I've got myself a pair of Solovair chelsea boots about a year ago and the soles are already pretty worn out. Water gets through the sole so I probably have to resole them if possible.

The wear has been surprisingly fast. Most of the boots I've had have been cheaper price point and lasted at least few years. Do I walk wrong or are the Solovair's soles just bad? How long should the soles last?

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[–] teft@piefed.social 39 points 3 days ago

3-5 years was what I would get in the army for regularly worn boots. Depends on the sole thickness and rubber type.

The reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money. Take boots, for example. ... A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. ... But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that'd still be keeping his feet dry in ten years' time, while a poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet.
This was the Captain Samuel Vimes 'Boots' theory of socio-economic unfairness.

There's a pretty big range depending on use and material.

Comments like "x has lasted me y years" don't really help. If they are being used as hiking boots in an area where the trails are dirt/mud/roots, they will last a while. If worn on rough concrete in a job where you walk around in them every day, they will wear fast.

There's also a big difference in the type of sole. Some soles have effectively a big stack of foam as the outsole, which gives you some squish, but wears relatively quickly. Those a generally really thick, though, so it will still take a while to wear through. Some soles are softer rubber so you get better grip, but then they wear more easily. Harder rubbers last longer, but then comfort and grip can suffer.

Dr Martens, and i assume solovair, has one piece of rubber that acts as the outsole and the cushioning. If you wear through the outer layer of the outsole, you can expose one of those air chambers and let water in.

If your gait has you grinding through a portion of the sole prematurely, you could potentially talk to a cobbler about swapping to a different type of sole that won't have that issue.

[–] lowspeedchase@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I used to be a big Keen guy and would buy a new pair of Targhee II's every other year... then it became every year.... the last pair wore out in 6 months. Other hikeresque people have told me Keen is crap since moving production to china - but everything is made in china. I also have friends with different brand preferences who have experienced the same degredation in quality over the years. I honestly have no clue if it's due to regulation with the materials as some have suggested, moving to cheaper materials (the VC special) or what. Long blerb but I am desperate to find a quality brand for hiking that offers a 'wide' option for my sasquatch feet.

[–] I_am_10_squirrels@beehaw.org 1 points 4 hours ago

Quality costs money. I got my partner custom made shoes that perfectly fit her feet and will likely last for decades not counting resoleing. Cost $1200 for the pair, but I can drive to the shop where they were made and talk to the cobbler.

[–] dan@upvote.au 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Keen is crap since moving production to china

A lot of people have an outdated view of the quality of stuff made in China. They think that everything is bad quality just because their $2 Aliexpress item doesn't last forever.

Most iPhones are made in China for example. Like anywhere, there's both good quality and bad quality products, depending on how much the company is willing to pay. Sometimes the quality is actually higher - for example, Tesla Model 3s manufactured in China have far fewer issues with road noise, panel alignment, and overall fit and finish compared to the ones manufactured in the USA. These days, China has far more experience with manufacturing, and a lot of the raw components (especially for electronics) come from China anyways.

Some companies that outsource manufacturing to China also lower their standards at the same time. It's not the manufacturing in China that's the problem; it's the company's decision to cheapen their product.

[–] lowspeedchase@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 days ago

Yep totally, that's why I mentioned the "VC special"

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I have nothing but good experiences with Vibram soles, to the point where I won't buy hiking boots with anything else these days.

My hiking boots are from Alfa, and I couldn't be happier with them. They sell a wide version as well. Not cheap though—hopefully it'll pay off after a few years.

Damn these things look like tanks I gotta find a place to try them on, thanks!

[–] siipale@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Damn. That would become an expensive hobby if you had to buy new shoes every six months. I'm not even hiking. I just have little walks and go from place A to place B. Though I guess walking on the pavement is worse for shoes than walking on soft hike trail.

Yes they have become my daily drivers for concrete as they started sucking for hiking when I got into long distance seriously after my intial AT hike.

[–] JASN_DE@feddit.org 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Long blerb but I am desperate to find a quality brand for hiking that offers a 'wide' option for my sasquatch feet.

What's your budget? Because that's possible but not cheap. Have a look at Hanwag. My Alaska Wide size 13,5 are excellent but came at a price.

[–] lowspeedchase@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Cheap is relative as these boots are like half the price of the other commenters rec: https://www.alfaoutdoor.com/men/hiking-boots - and your boots are like twice the price of my cheap keens hahah. They look awesome too though I will try to find a place to test drive. Thanks!

[–] tomalley8342@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Jim Green Razorbacks are all leather and resolable with 3E width at $190. You have to sort out the waterproofing yourself though.

[–] lowspeedchase@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Niiiiiiice! Thank you for the recommendation, the whole collection looks awesome!

[–] evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't have the razorbacks, but I can second the brand being the only traditional leather boots I've worn that are foot shaped.

[–] lowspeedchase@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

foot shaped

Almost spit out my coffee, thanks for the laugh lol

I'm not clever, it's a trademark term from Altra who makes running shoes with roomy toe boxes.

I do think it's a good term, though, cause it does get across the point that most shoes are not shaped like your feet naturally want to be.

[–] OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago

Danner boots are top notch and feel broke in from the box. Can't recommend them enough for concrete walking and hard waterproof work days. Their leather and tennis shoe type in sole are quality. You get the slightly raised sole but inside they are flatter unlike a cowboy boot or work boot. They feel like wearing sneakers rather than boots. Top notch!

[–] Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I bought a pair of keen boots about 5 years ago. I wear them daily from grocery shopping to hours long hikes with my husky.

my soles are prestine. the boot material itself I feel I should have hydrated somehow since the material is cracking on the sides near my toes, but zero issues with the soles.

not sure how or if this helps but it's my experience with keen

edit: I should also mention I walk different from most people. I don't typically walk heel/toe, I put my foot flat on the ground then move forward. this probably also helps my longevity of the soles since I have a much lower chance of scraping it in the ground. I adopted this way because of hiking. ensure solid surface before putting all weight/moving forward, and less chance of tripping on roots and stuff

[–] MystValkyrie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Folks on r/goodyearwelt and r/nps_solovair have been saying for the past couple years that Solovair's quality has gone downhill. It could just be a vocal minority who have had bad experiences, but that might be the explanation. Because that's a really short amount of time for the soles to wear out on a pair of Solovairs.

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Your soles should last way longer than that. On a set of proper boots the soles should last for years and years.

My chelsea boots are from Blundstone, and they show no sign of wear so far. That said I've only had them for half a year or so, so I still consider them new shoes—I expect they'll last many more years.

[–] SaneMartigan@aussie.zone 1 points 2 days ago

I've just thrown my Blundstones out they were so uncomfortable. Redback is a great Aussie work boot.