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Plan would apply to countries not currently required to get visas to the US, including Britain and France

In a notice published on Tuesday, the US Customs and Border Protection agency (CBP) said it would also require any telephone numbers used by visitors over the same period, and any email addresses used in the last decade, as well as face, fingerprint, DNA and iris biometrics. It would also ask for the names, addresses, birthdates and birthplaces of family members, including children.

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[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sorry Americams. I didnt really want to visit before you self-nazified. Certainly dont now.

[–] Ashenlux@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago

No need to apologize. In fact, at this point, please stay away. Once tourism completely dries up, even more people will see how awful this situation is and begin resisting. All those rich cities and towns will realize we need to be a place people want to come to, and to do that, we need to be less awful in so many ways. The status quo is still not broken enough for too many people.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago

Uh yeah. I'll take Canada or Cuba, thanks.

[–] zwerg@feddit.org 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

The ones committing all these thought crimes!

[–] watson@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

And this is how all tourism to the US died

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just straight up a violation of the 4th Amendment, and if there are any legal repercussions for the content of your accounts, depending on the nature content and the consequences of it, could be violations of the 1st and 5th amendments. These constitutional rights cover every single man woman and child on US soil, even visitors. There is no way any of this is legal.

[–] hume_lemmy@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago

"Yeah, about that..." - US Supreme Court

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (3 children)

At what point do these countries start reciprocating?

Start subjecting Americans (who can afford to go abroad) to the same bullshit we subject foreigners to and we might find support for the regime evaporating...

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 26 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Never. European countries gain nothing from tourists going to USA. They get money from USA tourists coming to Europe. It's a win-win for Europe: more European tourists staying here while US tourists still coming to spend their money. Why fight it?

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

But according to the article, these new hurdles will apply to visitors under the ESTA waiver also. And those are just as likely to be business travelers on short trips as they are full-on tourists.

Tell American executives that they can't enter Europe, even for a week, without surrendering their own social media history and then they get to experience actual consequences.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So all the business meetings will be happening in Europe. It's still a win for Europe. Governments rarely do things just to show people what it's like.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I don't mean to jump down your throat on this, my beef isn't with you. But I think it's attitudes like this that enable Fascist regimes to establish themselves.

If things continue to go badly here in the US then historians will view this as "appeasement". Not standing up against Fascism because it was more profitable that way.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah, I'm not saying what I'm for or against, just saying what EU will do and why.

And I don't think anyone will see letting Americans in as an appeasement. By numbers most Americans are not MAGA so US wide ban would be unfair group punishment, you want to leave the door open for anyone who wants to escape US and punishing normal citizens will not change anything. EU is not in a position to fight US. They way to win is to stand your ground on human rights and work to become independent of American influence which EU is doing moderately good job at.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

A fair number of those are people trying to flee the US. I was one of them, left at the first chance I could.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Honestly stop pussy footing and just issue a total embargo on the US as a whole, every base, territory, or ship included. No exceptions, if Air Force one pokes it's shitty head into any sovereign airspace it gets obliterated, if any American ships pop up on foreign shores then they're impounded and scrapped.

Treat us worse than the fucken Norks. This empire is collapsing regardless may as well speed it up a bit.

[–] darkmogool@feddit.org 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, go on, kill the entire US-tourism.

[–] zwerg@feddit.org 4 points 1 month ago

At this point I think they unloading into a long deceased corpse.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

"Sorry, I don't use social media." (hands over burner phone)

[–] watson@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Can't delete data from a phone that never had it. 😉 Bonus if you hand them a dumb phone.

"Oh, my phone? Sure, here you go!"

[–] watson@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

True. But then they can just arrest you for being a liar, regardless of if it’s true.

We gotta get rid of this Trump asshole…

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Man, if only lying was a crime!

[–] watson@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago
[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh no, I typed in the wrong password and phone wiped itself

[–] watson@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Oopsie-felony!

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 6 points 1 month ago

"Send me the bravo team. We have a terrorist here".

[–] EisFrei@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Poor Infantino. So much sucking up to Trump and all he gets is lower attendance for the world cup.

[–] MycelialMass@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

What if you dont use social media???