Lol I thought there was a bug with the top comment having negative votes. Nope it's just liberals defending the US. Death to amerikkka
this post was submitted on 15 Dec 2025
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Americans can always be counted on to do the right thing…after they have exhausted all other possibilities
They never do the right thing
Well they did join the Allies during WW2 did they not? The above quote was attributed to Churchill, what it means Americans eventually make a correct decision after trying a series of wrong decisions, some less effective, some foolish, counter-productive and dangerous.
America only entered WWII to take a piece of the pie.
It was pretty clear at that point that if the US didn't enter, the USSR would take the win and have the chance to bring more Nazi-occupied territories into their union. Many US corporations were even collaborating with the Nazis, the US made carve outs to prevent factories in Nazi territories being bombed, as we already know the US profits immensely from war, and then after the war they shipped all the Nazi scientists and generals into high places in government. They weren't exactly sworn enemies. Defeating the Nazis was not as high a priority as limiting the influence of the USSR. Their participation was always cynical, which might be why it seemed "counter-productive" at times.
On Dec. 3 1941, the US as a whole was quite content supplying the allies with everything they needed materially. We had told the USSR to just make tanks, we would give them everything else, including the ammunition for said tanks. Letting the USSR take a win was certainly preferable to what happened after they took a loss at the end of WWI.
I wonder what could have possibly happened on Dec. 4, 1941, that got the country to collectively say, "Fuck that. We aren't sitting by anymore."
Churchill, the orchestrator of the Bengal famine which resulted in the deaths of an estimated 800,000 to 3.8 million people.
Old information. Will attempt right-posadism after exhausting other possibilities now.
Not necessarily 'lying', but always 'defending their own interests'. If your country's interests align with them, that's little more than a nice side effect. If not, well, that's that.
ALWAYS lying
IT'S NOT LYING IT'S [a long ass explanation for the literal definition of lying]
"Their own interests" whose interests, exactly? Who benefitted, and who paid the costs, for the wars in the Middle East? The only people who benefitted seem to be oil companies and war profiteers, while ordinary people (including my own family) paid for it in both money and blood.
The interests of your own country's bourgeoisie might align sometimes with those of the American bourgeoisie, but neither align with your people or the American people.
'The united states' has ~0.3b subjects, it is probably closer to a few million beneficiaries/apparatus.
Do basically lying to protect the class interest of the USian bourgeoisie.
Wild how "defending their own interests" is considered a valid justification, when it basically means "I did it for my own benefit".
"By robbing a bank I'm merely defending my interest to be filthy rich - nothing wrong with that"
i feel bad for your partners,
No they're saying 'they will tell the truth by accident if it happens to be rgw thing they wanted you to believe for bullshit evil reasons anyway'.
I'm not sure I agree, but it's not exactly a pro-imperialist position.
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Incredible racism, holy shit.
Is theocracies being trash racism?
Saying that Muslims can only run theocracies is racist. The original commenter didn't say "theocracy bad," but instead "Muslims only capable of theocracy." Further, they were wrong to claim the US Empire is more trustworthy than anyone else.
US is a theocracy
The usa is a fascist state. Not a the3orcacy
they aren't mutually exclusive
Of course they aren't. But usa is not a theocracy. It's not run by a head of church nor anything close
US civil religion is a thing.
The republican party that's in power, is openly Christian and puts Christian values ahead of the public interest (their version of Christian values that have ziltch to do with whatever Jesus said).
You don't know what a theocracy is.
the president signed an executive order which declares being anti Christian a form of terrorism.
America, famous for respecting the human rights of non white people...
when was the last time they incarcerated people based on skin colour? they are still doing it? don't bring in your imperialist bullshit about a country currently attempting an ethnic cleansing on its own people.
Us Europeans are being lorded over by the US and yet we don't have ban to electricity to follow the Amish way of life, just because that's the most backward part of the US.
We're now living in a time where the US is telling us to tank our economy time after time 'just to spite the enemy', while China's economy is growing 5+% per year.
That's not sustainable.
At some point the people of Europe will be looking up at China and Russia for having an industry and commerce instead of letting everything be bought out by the US.
Moreover, our human rights are extremely selective and are based on the protection of the two ruling classes of capitalism, the lawyer class and the merchant (aka as donor) class, having replaced the clergy and nobility that came before.
Human rights is just one way for the laywer class to justify their actions, which primarily serves the merchant class
On top of that, none of those in power are even in Europe anymore. The donors class is all (Anglo-)American and we're obligated to follow "international law" or "agreements with NATO" no matter what you supposedly voted for.
The moment competition shows up from China, in the US, not even the EU, then those rights the rest of us are supposed to have are immediately thrown out of the window, or for us Europeans, six months later.
Freedom of trade?
2000: "That's what has made the US the most powerful nation in the world!"
2025: "National security threat!" "IP theft!"
"No ZTE routers, Huawei phones, or inexpensive BYD cars, for you. Sorry."
Freedom of the press?
2000: "Freedom of speech what the US has and other countries don't."
2025: "Fake news!" "Ruzzian Chinese propaganda!"
"No more RT for you. Sorry. And soon we'll be curtailing TikTok (US), Xiaohongshu (Taiwan)
and any Asian cinema as well. (US)"
Human rights?
2000: "You're allowed to protest about anything." 2025: "Protesting genocide of Palestine by Israel is anti-semitic and thus illegal. (UK)"