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Wait, guys, are we over systemd already?
Time to rewrite systemd in rust. I don't have time to hate them individually /s
Those that work professionally with the stuff - since years.
I too am upset Rust dropped Linux support a few years ago and never developed the Vulkan graphics engine they had promised. I understand the anticheat issues but still, it's a fun game. Figure it out, Facepunch.
I was very confused there for a second
No quams with wayland or rust, but snap packages, those things annoy me greatly.
What no systemd?
Why are we afraid of systemd again? /gen
I came in late w/ arch-based systems so legitimately donβt know the lore.
Off the top of my head, in no particular order:
Most (though not all) of the popular complaints are completely unreasonable. Those people usually see themselves as moral and righteous and expect the world at large to follow their personal creed. I especially consider the UNIX philosophy to be outdated, and strict adherence to it to be an obstacle for modern apps and systems.
I have some issues with systemd, and I don't like that one for-profit company has such a massive influence over the entire Linux ecosystem, but I have to acknowledge that it works, it works well enough to counter my personal issues, and that the people whose opinion matters the most (specifically Debian and Arch maintainers) chose it for a good reason.
Man, I really don't understand what the issues with Wayland are. Granted, I'm new here and a pretty basic user so there's some underlying issue that seems to be breaking people's setups, I guess I just haven't encountered it. I went from using Mint for like a month before I switched to Arch. And I only did that because my second screen was acting goofy on Mint and I figured in for a penny in for a pound, let's see why people are so afraid of this distro and haven't had any serious issues in the past two years.
My issue with Wayland is just that not everything supports it. I tried switching to Wayland this year and immediately I ran into issues with software that weren't compatible, like Steamlink would not stream over Wayland, but switching back to X11 it streamed just fine. At least in my experience, Wayland itself is not the problem, but developers not supporting Wayland is the problem. The moment I run into just one program that I want to use that doesn't work with Wayland, I am going to permanently switch back to X11. I think most users think that way. Most don't want to switch back and forth to use a program, if a single program doesn't work they will just revert to X11 and stay within X11.
Wayland has been around for many many many many more years than Wayland has been good enough to use. I think that's about it.
Arch is definitely the most stable and usable distro for me as well. Fedora and suse shit the bed constantly when I used them. I assume arch has the same image problem due to legacy. I know when I first tried Manjaro maybe 7-10 years ago because everyone said how great it was, doing a simple pacman update after install immediately bricked the computer. My experience with endeavor has been perfect, other than the poor spelling of the team.
Note all of the arch stuff above is for servers. I can't stand Linux for laptop use, it's not worth the effort.
For most βlaymenβ Wayland works just fine. I prefer Wayland because it has proper support for fractional scaling, which is a must for monitors with higher resolution than 1080p.
I'm the same with systemd. I'm aware it gets a lot of hate from people but I dunno, seems fine to me. It's never given me any trouble that I can think of.
I live programs written in rust. They are quick & lightweight & fun.
Know what i hate ? Installing rust programs with cargo. It's slow & grinds my Chromebook to a halt.
I mean, that's not a Rust issue per se. It's only noticeable because cargo is much better than most build systems, and hence is an actual option for distribution of software. But there should ideally always be a binary distribution. I know some people like to build everything by themselves, but I get it, it's annoying.
Average C from source experience: (copied from Kicad)
apt get long list of dependency
git clone
cd
cmake
make
sudo make install
rm -r .
Average Rust from source experience:
cargo install
Most of the time you should probably not install from source of possible.
Most complaint against Rust is fucking culture war, not technical, so people who actually have technical concerns with Rust are being lumped together with Brian Lunduke and others.
Nah, I strongly believe the ones who are so butthurt by this are the developer equivalent of NIMBYs
I dunno. I still don't use Wayland, but I have no problem with people developing for it.
I just donβt want Xorg to die, weβd lose many cool desktop environments and window managers
Nothing dies in Linux. But it might lose support from the mainline kernel (for xorg, it may take another 50 years).