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[–] HisArmsOpen@crust.piefed.social 18 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Orbans Hungary is what the UK will become if we vote for Farage or similar shitheads.

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 76 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Please dear Hungarian people just stop voting for this fascist

You too can have nice things

Gay people aren't the enemy, stop being scared of them

[–] kepix@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

cant really do much. the pensioners and gypsies love him like a fuckin god. the ruling party has sold everything to the orban family, and changed up many ceos to his friends. even if fidesz doesnt win the next elections, they already control the country, and stolen everything like the communists back in the say. almost every media outlet, newsportal, tv channel is in their hands. there is nowhere to run. anti fidesz newspapers get blocked, newswriters get swatted by police or taxangency.

easy to say that "haha gay people good, just dont vote on him", where there is a full country obeying his every wish.

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 4 points 8 hours ago

I understand what you're saying, almost the same thing with the neonazis in Germany. The propaganda is so dumb and so effective it would be comical if it weren't so sad.

Just one thing I'd like to say though: Gays aren't good nor are they bad - they are just people, like everyone else.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 63 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The problem is an aging countryside population that consumes terrestrial broadcast only. All terrestrial broadcast is controlled by the current government. Young people overwhelmingly support lgbtq rights and the party votes keep shifting year over year towards the opposition the past few years as old people die due to neglected healthcare.

Here's the illegal "gay parade" in Budapest from this last summer:

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 13 points 1 day ago

This is very good to hear

[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Problem: They gerrymandered, control the media and made a law that requires a 66% majority to replace ministers of Orban, even if the opposition wins.

[–] Klimaschutz@feddit.org 10 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Hitler playbook.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 58 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hope this will tilt the Hungarian vote even more against autocrat lover Victor Orban.

[–] SW42@lemmy.world 64 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Spoiler alert: it won’t. If you drive through Hungary (which we sometimes do) you notice anti-EU ads literally everywhere and he also controls the traditional media outlets so the news bias should be off the charts. My guess is that they’ll frame it like Ursula being a bully and withholding what is rightfully theirs because they don’t like the way Orban protects his citizens. Unfortunately…

[–] fr0g@piefed.social 54 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I'm always surprised that this kind of rhetoric works. If the EU were such a big bully, nothing would stop Hungary from just leaving. Like, at some point you'd have to ask yourself why a supposedly competent and well-meaning leader keeps you in a relarionship with an entity that allegedly only wants the worst for you.

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 46 points 1 day ago

"The enemy is strong while also weak" is standard fascist propaganda.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago

It has been a "the enemy is strong" while at the same time "the enemy is weak" for hundreds of years. Most people are simply not critical thinkers.

[–] SW42@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Welp, I’m surprised trump managed to become the president of the USA. Twice. Unfortunately it seems this is how the world works unfortunately.

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 14 points 1 day ago

Why not. From its inception this place was populated by religious fruits, tax dodgers, the desperate and uneducated. Hell, half of the country fought a grizzly war against the other half that the losing half still isn't over. The losing half started it so that men much like Trump could own other men. The slave owners weren't the ones doing the fighting, of course, rich men don't fight wars. They stirred up the poor, unlearned yokels, told them that they were being oppressed and sent them to die and kill, which they did. There's still folks who claim "the South will rise again".

Trump is as American as baseball.

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

People don't have the energy or will to pour time into politics so they're easily swayed by whomever speaks with most authority, even if they're just blowing smoke up their arse. It's how all these nazi parties are rising to the top in most countries; they paint a very easy to understand picture of complex problems and promise easy solutions that they can't deliver.

"How do we solve crime? Most criminals are immigrants so we just boot them out. Not all criminals are immigrants of course, so we'll need to also increase the police force. Give them more surveillance tools."

Bam! Authoritarianism.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If the EU were such a big bully, nothing would stop Hungary from just leaving.

Hungary is landlocked. Serbia is on its way into the EU.

The EU could be a bully that is so big that they cannot be left.

[–] Pringles@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Serbia is not even close to being allowed to join the EU.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

It's enough if they would join in 10 or 20 years.

[–] fr0g@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago

That seems like a huge stretch even to someone who gobbles up all the anti-EU propaganda to me. But you never know, I guess.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Anti-EU, but not anti EU money, eh?

[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

He found out, you can be an asshole about the EU, but get the money anyway.

[–] Szewek@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The polls look promising. Your fatalistic belief everybody just blindly follows propaganda may well be disproven this year (disproven again, but in a new country).

https://www.politico.eu/europe-poll-of-polls/hungary/

[–] Szewek@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Kissaki@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago

Let's hope Trump made such an excessive example that more distrustful people vote to prevent Orban.

[–] SW42@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I would be happy if it manifested this way in the election. Would be my hope.

[–] qaz@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago
[–] C1pher@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 23 hours ago

As much as I hate Orban, I believe we need a bigger opposition against Flinten Uschi, and he is the only one doing this right now.