If we're talking about denying profits to fatcats leveraging the Intellectual Property legislation they corruptly bought (for example anti circumvention legislation, business methods patents or the insane copyright lengths nowadays), then Piracy is pretty much a Moral Obligation.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 10 points 11 hours ago

No officer, I do not "pirate"

I merely ask a friend of a friend to share with me free stuff, which are, obviously, totally perfectly legal and absolutely not illegal copyright infringement. 😉

He goes by the username: Ligma

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 9 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Pirate to avoid DRM/antifeatures: 😎

[–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 9 hours ago

[Insert "we are not the same" meme]

[–] purplemonkeymad@programming.dev 10 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

I mean I pay artists when I can. I buy and download songs from an artist I like, but for what ever reason this one track is not available to download. Stream only! I can't be sure, but I feel like I should say fuck you to netflix.

This is the shit that makes pirates.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 6 hours ago

If we're talking about music, go see the band and buy a shirt. That will help them like 1000000x more than paying for netflix, spotify, etc.

[–] Buffy@libretechni.ca 5 points 11 hours ago

Huge middle finger to Netflix. 40% of all of my blocked DNS queries are Netflix trackers. And the real kicker is that most were coming from TVs with Netflix installed, not even signed into my account. Take from them what you can, because they're doing the same with you.

[–] fu@libranet.de 1 points 8 hours ago

@purplemonkeymad here here

[–] falseWhite@programming.dev 2 points 8 hours ago

Pirate if I cannot afford it or it's not available in my area.

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 22 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

We're at a point where the improved user experience is enough justification.
Every service ever is putting revenue above costumer satisfaction. Every streaming app gets in the way of what you want to watch so they can funnel you to the same 3 Movies/TV Shows. Searching is almost useless you get a few results related to your search term and the rest is unrelated garbage.
The other day I was watching a movie at a friend's house on Netflix. When you hit pause, the movie minimizes into a card on the left and the rest of the screen turns into a fucking advertisement.
Like, not even a "recommendation" for another movie on the service, just a full blown ad for something else, ours was a food delivery app ad.

I've gotten spoiled by the Piracy experience. Over here it's me first and me above everything.
None of my 'services' fill my screen with ads for their new season so the shareholders can recoup their half a billion investment.
They show me my media and get the fuck out of my way. It's refreshing.
The apps are made by people who actually use them daily and there's no pressure to make a "return of investment", they just make the best user experience they can and that's it.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

It's pretty amazing how qbittorent is such a nice app, while something like youtube is constantly shoving ads up your butt.

[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 89 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Pirate to own what they want me to rent.

[–] sopularity_fax@sopuli.xyz 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

License

[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 16 points 12 hours ago

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 56 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Perfectly happy to pay artists for their work; entirely unwilling to pay the scum that aggregate and charge for access to that art, with countless strings attached.

[+] iloveDigit@piefed.social -12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't even get why pay artists for their work at times like this. Seems like that should be for times when there's enough food for everyone.

Easy for me to say as someone with enough food to do art as a hobby, but still

[–] Hyperrealism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

If it becomes impossible to make a living as an artist, the only people becoming creatives will be the kids of rich people. Mummy and daddy can pay for them to spend 10 years flouncing around Hollywood, making loss making tv shows, or whatever before they stand a chance of being paid enough. Already a huge problem.

If only rich people are making art, it's inevitable that mass culture will be dominated by the ideology and beliefs of out of touch rich people. If you want culture that criticizes the status quo, you need more poor or working class kids in the creative sector.

This being said, my pension plan is a rope, so I'm quite happy pirating rather than paying for luxuries. Especially if I'm stealing from a company that engages in wage theft, avoids paying tax, etc. If anything it then becomes perfectly moral.

But if you have some spare money, go support artists and creatives who deserve it.

Not that I'm judging anyone.

[–] grey_maniac@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 hours ago

If your pension plan is a rope, might I suggest a guillotine instead? or first? Get rid of as many top hoarders as you can.

I remember the looks I got at a goalsetting workshop when they asked, "What would you do if you had six months to live?" and I said, "Killing spree."

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

That's already happening: just look at the origins of top British musicians and actors now vs 3 decades ago - the age of stars hailing from the working class like David Bowie and Michael Caine is well and truly gone.

Like many other things, the filtering out of anybody not from the upper middle and upper class happens very early on and often even upstream from them starting their careers: it's simply not affordable for them to go live in the places were things like good theatre academies and the best opportunities are, especially with the insane housing costs there.

On top of that there's also the heavy nepotism and cronyism in those environments, especially theatre, so somebody not from that environment already and whose parents don't "know somebody who knows somebody" there are pretty much screwed.

Losing money to piracy is well behind those things in affecting working class kids' chances at making it big in the arts, especially given that the stage at which they are being blocked from progressing is one where they're not famous and make most of their money from live performances, were piracy has no effect or can even have a positive effect if it helps make them more known as artists.

Mind you, I think it's the morally right thing to do to pay those who need the money when you enjoy the product of their work, directly and bypassing the industry leeches which just leverage their control of distribution to extract rents, I just disagree with your theory that it's somehow relevant for the arts being accessible for people not from well off origins, since my own observations when I had some contact with that world back in the UK and being interested in the subject also read about it, were that the causes of the massive fall in people from the working class in the arts in the UK were a cross between broad structural problems that pretty much stopped social mobility in general there and the nature of the arts as a very tough area were a handful of people make most of the money whilst the vast majority of artist spend years trying and failing barely capable to survive (nowadays not at all unless they have the bank of mommy and daddy to support them).

[–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 6 points 16 hours ago

Paywalls only move this to the consumer:

If art doesn’t make you money, only rich people can make art.

Under the current system, you can make money making art, but only access it if you’re not poor (or pirate it lol).

Either way, much of art becomes an image of the experiences of rich people, either through the artists themselves or the audience.

A more fundamental change is needed if you really want to solve this issue.

[+] iloveDigit@piefed.social -10 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Nah, that's all fundamentally wrong.

Paying artists for their work, especially when there's not enough food for everyone, is capitalist bullshit that perpetuates and is perpetuated by letting rich people dominate society. Your post makes the problem worse by not expressing any loss of respect for artists who enrich themselves while others starve.

If Eminem read your reply, he'd probably take it as a sign his low income background makes it OK for him to be so famous we both know him, while other people are starving to death and other artists have zero audience - but you're trying to twist it the other way around, like rocket launching him into capitalist mental illness is actually keeping things grounded or something.

That's how you get a society where people like Eminem aren't organizing to overthrow Trump, because instead of the situation being "I'm known and paid as an artist for the useful stuff I do in that position aside from art," the situation is "anything useful I do aside from art will detract from my career as an artist so I should just shut up and be less political, at least less political than organizing a revolution."

If someone doesn't care enough about art to do it when it's hard, their opinion isn't more valuable than mine just because they're poorer than me.

I have been homeless before and probably will again because I have a spine - people who waste their lives doing whatever corporations tell them, do not have more valuable opinions than me just because they have less money than me.

It would be more reasonable if no one paid artists for their work until there was enough food for everyone, and art had to come from people like me who can afford to do it regardless of how much money we have, because we'd rather face stuff like homelessness than waste our lives. That's how you would get a society that isn't culturally dominated by capitalist bullshit.

Then I'd be making money for the useful stuff I do instead of facing possible homelessness, Eminem would be making money for the useful stuff he does including making any political statements he wants instead of staying quiet to get paid for music, and Trump wouldn't be a topic.

Edited this comment a lot. Made it too long. Removed one angry paragraph because all the paragraphs are too angry as it is. Sorry.

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 13 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

How do i avoid drake

[–] railway692@piefed.zip 28 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Be over the age of 18

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 3 points 12 hours ago

Yet here we are with the fuckass on our screens.

[–] oeuf@slrpnk.net 53 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

& piracy as archival

[–] upstroke4448@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

I still pay even though I pirate. Debrid service, Usenet etc.

It's always been a service issue not a money issue for me. I realize not everyone has the luxury of that issue.

Right now I'm paying about $6/month. I could always reduce it to 0 but at this price the extra QOL features are worth it.

[–] ThatGuyNamedZeus@feddit.org 8 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Our tax dollars are subsidising hollywood and AAA video games. We already paid for them

but just my personal advice. Don't pirate your OS and don't pirate security software, that shit needs to run exactly right and cracked versions could have all kinds of things hidden inside of them

[–] pyrinix@kbin.melroy.org 2 points 8 hours ago

I have yet to ever have this happen to me. I've been pirating Windows OSes since Win2000 days.

This is only a risk if you don't know what you're getting into and do not take precautions. The best security for your PC and OS is common sense. Anti-virus and that junk just want your money to make you feel secure.

[–] weirdo_from_space@sh.itjust.works 6 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Windows and Linux are both free and MacOS coames pre-installed in custom made hardware, so I don't know who would pirate an OS anymore. I'm with you on security software though.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 12 hours ago

so I don't know who would pirate an OS anymore

those who don't know what they're doing, but some are still doing it so good point

[–] pyrinix@kbin.melroy.org 10 points 23 hours ago

I pirate because my money is more important to be spent on necessities. A video game isn't going to pay my bills. A music track isn't going to pay my car payment. A book isn't going to pay my groceries.

Entertainment to me is just a luxury. Not everything I've gotten was pirated, if but spent sparingly when sales and deals come around. But if me wanting something such as a game is going to come between that and me needing food for another week or two. The food is going to win out and that game is going to be pirated.

I don't have all of the time in the world either to keep waiting, waiting, and waiting for deals to be low enough for me to afford whatever it is.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I pirate on principal

[–] Hyperrealism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I pirate on my pc and the internet.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 day ago

I pirate on supernintendo chalmers

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 23 hours ago

This could mean either thing!

[–] lena@gregtech.eu 22 points 1 day ago

¿Por qué no los dos?

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 1 day ago

I pirate but still go to local indie house cinemas to contribute to good artists. I’ll go commercial cinema too as that’s only £5 and you can take your own food.

[–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's a minor issue with this meme.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

A minoorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr - Kendrick

[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago

‘Piracy’ is only a problem if ‘Intellectual Property’ is treated as a legitimate concept, and not an arbitrary construct of artificial constraint imposed on intrinsically abundant resources.

Copyright and patents should be replaced with a system designed to quantify and attribute the true value of ideas, and not reward locking them away as tightly as possible.

[–] Engywuck@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I pirate because I'm a cheap bastard.

[–] Hyperrealism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I am a pirate because I are.

[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Don't you mean arrrrrr?

[–] Hyperrealism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

Arrrrrrrrrr.

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Always wanted to ask whether this is a meme com now and whether piracy memes could be separate so the main remains for proper interesting discussions and questions

[–] cm0002@libretechni.ca 13 points 1 day ago

I don't think the Threadiverse is big enough for it to matter in most cases, this comm is huge, but yet there were 3 posts all day yesterday to it

Plus, memes are perfectly capable of sparking serious discussions and questions to lol