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    [โ€“] cygnus@lemmy.ca 179 points 3 days ago (11 children)

    Me using KDE Plasma because I prefer to work with my computer rather than work on my computer:

    [โ€“] cadekat@pawb.social 28 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    I caved and used KDE on my last install, and boy do I miss Gnome.

    Not that KDE is bad, but Gnome is just so my style.

    [โ€“] MuckyWaffles@leminal.space 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    I'm a gnome fan myself, though I've been using a lot of distros without systemd recently while gnome has started requiring it so I'm probably not going to be seeing gnome for a while.

    [โ€“] cadekat@pawb.social 1 points 19 hours ago

    That's interesting. I come from the Gentoo world, so Gnome without systemd isn't too uncommon.

    [โ€“] ray@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    Couldn't you just install Gnome now? Most distros have packages for Gnome and KDE, and there's usually nothing stopping you from installing them both.

    [โ€“] cadekat@pawb.social 7 points 3 days ago

    I could, but I'll probably stick with KDE until I reinstall. It ain't broke, just not exactly what I want.

    [โ€“] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    Not that KDE is bad, but Gnome is just so my style.

    can't you just customise KDE to just work like gnome?

    [โ€“] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    Yes but it takes a lot of work

    [โ€“] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

    There's probably thirty Global Theme packs that do exactly that with a single click

    [โ€“] Eldritch@piefed.world 5 points 3 days ago

    Possible? Yes. Accomplishable, dunno. You can get very close visually etc. Far closer than making GNOME look like KDE. But I have a feeling that some of the panel meaning dropdowns etc would be the first places to falter. Though, maybe someone has fitting panel apps already.

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    [โ€“] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

    The rare double ambiguity: "work on" and "work with" could both have two meanings with opposite effects in the sentence

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    [โ€“] DeltaWingDragon@sh.itjust.works 109 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    Meanwhile, desktop environment users:

    [โ€“] Ephera@lemmy.ml 22 points 3 days ago

    Yeah, have not heard about any of these problems before this post...

    [โ€“] teft@piefed.social 34 points 3 days ago (4 children)

    Are newbies really installing hyprland? I would think they'd stick with kde/gnome/cinnamon.

    [โ€“] F04118F@feddit.nl 59 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

    In an ideal world.

    But in our world, newbies are being recommended:

    • Distros based on ArchLinux, that ship breaking changes and expect users to read .pacnew config files and update their own config accordingly (CachyOS)
    • A bunch of shell scripts and Hyprland config masquerading as a distro, made by a white supremacist and used to promote their brand (Omarchy ๐Ÿคฎ)
    • NixOS. I don't even known where to begin with this one.

    To be 100% clear, I use and like CachyOS and Nix (home manager). CachyOS and NixOS are great projects with good technical performance toward their respective goals (good defaults and performance on Arch, and declarative configuration, respectively), but they are not beginner friendly.

    [โ€“] Zwiebel@feddit.org 25 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

    Meanwhile my Fedora ass whos done nothing but run updates for like five years

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    [โ€“] teft@piefed.social 19 points 3 days ago

    Distros based on ArchLinux, that ship breaking changes and expect users to read .pacnew config files and update their own config accordingly (CachyOS)

    You're absolutely right. The other day I ran into a guy using arch who didn't know what a tarball was or how to compile software. I was like 'the fuck?'.

    I should have thought of the newbies who just follow guides and might not know they've gotten in over their heads.

    [โ€“] Zozano@aussie.zone 7 points 3 days ago

    In some ways I think NixOS is good for beginners. I started with Ubuntu, then Arch, then NixOS.

    I managed to break Ubuntu and Arch in some really weird ways which made reinstalling my root directory easier than diagnosing the issues.

    You cannot break NixOS unless you do some funky chroot shit or rebuild with temporary partitions.

    This isn't to suggest newbies should choose NixOS as a first distro, learning NixOS will give you a skill set which will not translate to knowledge about how other Linux OS's work (because it breaks file system conventions).

    However... If you know how to use NixOS, you're living a post distro-hopping life, having ascended to godhood, and letting the Arch users know you use Nix BTW.

    [โ€“] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    A bunch of shell scripts and Hyprland config masquerading as a distro, made by a white supremacist and used to promote their brand (Omarchy ๐Ÿคฎ)

    AntiX, fast, lightweight, and proudly anti-fascist...

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    [โ€“] HellieSkellie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    Third top post of all time to r/r/unixporn is a slick hyprland + quickshell rice and they linked their dotfiles + configs. how is a brother to resist trying it?

    [โ€“] teft@piefed.social 5 points 3 days ago

    That's how they get ya...

    [โ€“] Bubblebath@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    I am a newbie with hyprland. Got introduced to it with a bog video, and because it was keyboard only, it was a good fit for my dell nuggetbook with a poor trackpad. It isn't my only machine, so I felt safe enough in doing so.

    It has taken a bit of configuring the files, but I have really enjoyed the process of learning.

    So for me it was a way of reviving a machine that was painful to use.

    Also most rice I have seen are hyprland. Probably doesn't help

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    [โ€“] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 39 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    I am out of the loop, whatโ€™s going on with hyperland?

    Is this a continuation of the DHH issues?

    [โ€“] TabbsTheBat@pawb.social 45 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    I assume it's about hyprland changing the syntax for window rules like.. 6 days ago

    [โ€“] toasterbotnet@piefed.social 49 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

    Yes. It's not even an inconvenience to update, but people with bloated third party dotfiles got blasted with a million error messages and are making confused reddit posts

    [โ€“] Jhex@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

    indeedโ€ฆ I took what I learnt from someone's dotfile project to build my own minimalist oneโ€ฆ took me an afternoon to set up and everything has been rock solid since

    not bad mouthing the dotfiles project I learnt fromโ€ฆ they did great but I just did not need that much

    It was actually pretty inconvenient because I found the syntax for "anonymous rules" basically undocumented.

    [โ€“] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 28 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    People actually looked at Omarchy and said fuck yeah punch it?

    [โ€“] Luffy879@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    The only person I know who run Omarch is a trans girl... But the developers are really weird.

    [โ€“] Zangoose@lemmy.world 36 points 3 days ago (4 children)

    I couldn't have picked better timing to switch to niri if I tried.

    [โ€“] sfxrlz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 3 days ago

    Same. love niri though. I think Iโ€™m going to keep it

    [โ€“] cadekat@pawb.social 13 points 3 days ago (2 children)
    [โ€“] boringbisexual@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    There are dozens of us. I've been using niri for almost a year now and I think I would be lost if I switched to anything else.

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    [โ€“] ne0phyte@feddit.org 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    Yup. Been on Niri for a couple of months and it works very well and is super stable.

    Niri seems to have a vision whereas Hyprland folks just seem to push as many features and changes as they can with little consideration.

    [โ€“] Zangoose@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

    I used hyprland on my laptop for about a year and the thing that bothered me the most (aside from the toxic community) was how often I had to rewrite chunks of it after every major update. I'm definitely glad that the niri devs are treating its config stability more seriously.

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    [โ€“] lian_drake@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (5 children)

    And that is why I no longer use Hyprland and actually thinking about removing that branch from my dotfiles repo. Why vaxry doesn't seem to understand the concept of "deprecation"?

    [โ€“] ne0phyte@feddit.org 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    I moved on to Niri a couple of months ago for various reasons, constantly having to fix and re-check my config against the docs being one of them.

    For me Niri performs better, I really like the workflow and the dev behind it is very deliberate with new features and changes. Feels like he has a clear vision on how it's supposed to work and it shows imo.

    [โ€“] porkloin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

    Just recently switched to Niri myself - I think the fact that Niri inherits a lot from Smithay for compositior stuff really helps. Itโ€™s the same compositor base that cosmic DE uses. Sure hyprland has HDR at present and Niri doesnโ€™t, but I think it helps a lot to not build a compositor and a TWM at the same time. vaxry is honestly just doing way too much and itโ€™s unsustainable and new version blow ups like this were inevitable given how big the install base has become and how huge hyprland feature set has gotten

    [โ€“] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

    Dumbest thing in software imo, is when I see software that is obviously worthy of being out of v0 (beta, alpha, etc), stay in v0.

    Though since it still is v0, I guess we can't expect much.

    Not sure why it is, maybe there is a good reason, but the software functions well enough for a stable release, though at the same time, this is a very small scale operation with great ambitions and a big userbase. If you api needs to be updated, it's obviously much easier to just push a breaking change than to maintain a migration period.

    There's a lot of nuance, but I'd like more software to just enter v1 when it works as intended and then breaking changes can increment the major version rather than staying in v0 which is harder to tell when a breaking change happens.

    p.s. so far config changes in hyprland have only been a 5 min fix so i haven't experienced this fuss yet, maybe soon!

    [โ€“] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    Zed is the perfect example of that.

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    [โ€“] JakoJakoJako13@piefed.social 6 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    I'll take the Mango, thank you.

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    [โ€“] TabbsTheBat@pawb.social 5 points 3 days ago

    I'm so glad my hyprpand setup got nuked before this, so I didn't have to deal with it /j

    [โ€“] Jhex@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

    Hyprland hereโ€ฆ just happy to be in the meme

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