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[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 216 points 1 week ago (4 children)

TBH asking questions on SO (and most similar platforms) fucking sucks, no surprise that users jump at the first opportunity at getting answers another way.

[–] slate@sh.itjust.works 240 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Removed. Someone else already said this before. Also, please ensure you stick to the stlye guides next time, and be less ambiguous. SO could mean a plethora of things.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 107 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

SpoilerLast time this question was answered was for several years older software versions, and the old solutions don't work anymore. Whoops!

[–] comador@lemmy.world 58 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] amateurcrastinator@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You have been banned for off topic low effort conversation.

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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago

I was in the middle of making a reply like this but yours is better. Closed as duplicate.

[–] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I will never forget the time I posted a question about why something wasn't working as I expected, with a minimal example (≈ 10 lines of python, no external libraries) and a description of the expected behaviour and observed behaviour.

The first three-ish replies I got were instant comments that this in fact does work like I would expect, and that the observed behaviour I described wasn't what the code would produce. A day later, some highly-rated user made a friendly note that I had a typo that just happened to trigger this very unexpected error.

Basically, I was thrashed by the first replies, when the people replying hadn't even run the code. It felt extremely good to be able to reply to them that they were asshats for saying that the code didn't do what I said it did when they hadn't even run it.

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[–] micka190@lemmy.world 134 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

According to a Stack Overflow survey from 2025, 84 percent of developers now use or plan to use AI tools, up from 76 percent a year earlier. This rapid adoption partly explains the decline in forum activity.

As someone who participated in the survey, I'd recommend everyone take anything regarding SO's recent surveys with a truckfull of salt. The recent surveys have been unbelievably biased with tons of leading questions that force you to answer in specific ways. They're basically completely worthless in terms of statistics.

[–] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 50 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Realistically though, asking an LLM what’s wrong with my code is a lot faster than scrolling through 50 posts and reading the ones that talk about something almost relevant.

[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's even faster to ask your own armpit what's wrong with your code, but that alone doesn't mean you're getting a good answer from it

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 28 points 1 week ago (3 children)

If you get a good answer just 20% of the time, an LLM is a smart first choice. Your armpit can't do that. And my experience is that it's much better than 20%. Though it really depends a lot of the code base you're working on.

[–] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 35 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Also depends on your level of expertise. If you have beginner questions, an LLM should give you the correct answer most of the time. If you’re an expert, your questions have no answers. Usually, it’s something like an obscure firmware bug edge case even the manufacturer isn’t aware of. Good luck troubleshooting that without writing your own drivers and libraries.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

If you're writing cutting edge shit, then LLM is probably at best a rubber duck for talking things through. Then there are tons of programmers where the job is to translate business requirements into bog standard code over and over and over.

Nothing about my job is novel except the contortions demanded by the customer — and whatever the current trendy JS framework is to try to beat it into a real language. But I am reasonably good at what I do, having done it for thirty years.

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[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

How do you know it's a good answer? That requires prior knowledge that you might have. My juniors repeatedly demonstrate they've no ability to tell whether an LLM solution is a good one or not. It's like copying from SO without reading the comments, which they quickly learn not to do because it doesn't pass code review.

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[–] perry@aussie.zone 130 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I post there every 6-12 months in the hope of receiving some help or intelligent feedback, but usually just have my question locked or removed. The platform is an utter joke and has been for years. AI was not entirely the reason for its downfall imo.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Not common I'm sure, but I once had an answer I posted completely rewritten for grammar, punctuation, and capitalization. I felt so valued. /s

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[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 91 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

LLM's won't be helping but SE/SO have been fully enshitifying themselves for years.

It was amazing in the early days.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 46 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It was a vast improvement over expert sex change, which was the king before SO.

[–] KudoMonstro@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

expertSEXchange dot com hahahahaahahahahahahahaha oh that brought me some dreadful memories! Thanks for the laugh and rhe chills

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[–] melfie@lemy.lol 76 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

This is not because AI is good at answering programming questions accurately, it’s because SO sucks. The graph shows its growth leveling off around 2014 and then starting the decline around 2016, which isn’t even temporally correlated with LLMs.

Sites like SO where experienced humans can give insightful answers to obscure programming questions are clearly still needed. Every time I ask AI a programming question about something obscure, it usually knows less than I do, and if I can’t find a post where another human had the same problem, I’m usually left to figure it out for myself.

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[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 62 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah because either you get a "how dumb are you?" Or none

[–] HereIAm@lemmy.world 61 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 53 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

imho the experience is miserable, they went out of their way to strip all warmth from messages (they have a whole automated thing to get rid of all greetings and things considered superfluous) and there are many incentives to score points by answering which frankly I find sad, it doesn't look like a forum where people exchange, it looks like a permanent run to answer and grow your point total

[–] DomeGuy@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago

Stackexchange sites aren't intended as forums, they're supposed to be "places to find answers to questions".

The more you get away from stack overflow itself the worse they get, though, because anything beyond "how can I fix this tech problem" doesn't necessarily have an answer at all, much less a single best one

[–] eronth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 48 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Honestly just funny to see. It makes perfect sense, based on how they made the site hostile to users.

[–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I was contributing to SO in 2014-2017 when my job wanted our engineers to be more "visible" online.

I was in the top 3% and it made me realize how incredibly small the community was. I was probably answering like 5 questions a week. It wasn't hard. For some perspective, I'm making like 4-5 posts on Lemmy A DAY.

What made me really pissed was how often a new person would give a really good answer, then some top 1% chucklefuck would literally take that answer, rewrite it, and then have it appear as the top answer. And that happened to me constantly. But again, I didn't care since I'm just doing this to show my company I'm a "good lil engineer".

I stopped participating because of how they treated new users. And around 2020(?), SO made a pledge to be not so douchy and actually allow new users to ask questions. But that 1% chucklefuck crew was still allowed to wave their dicks around and stomp on people's answers. So yeah, less "Duplicate questions", more "This has been answered already [link to their own answer that they stole]".

So they removed the toxic attitude with asking questions, but not the toxicity when answering. SO still had the most sweaty people control responses, including editing/deleting them. And you can't grow a community like that.

[–] Atlas48@ttrpg.network 43 points 1 week ago

Reported for duplicate.

[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

Even before AI I stopped asking any questions or even answering for that matter on that website within like the first few months of using it. Just not worth the hassle of dealing with the mods and the neck beard ass users and I didn't want my account to get suspended over some BS in case I really needed to ask an actual question in the future, now I can't remember the last time I've been to any stack website and it does not show up in the Google search results anymore, they dug their own grave

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 18 points 1 week ago (17 children)

The humans of StackOverflow have been pricks for so long. If they fixed that problem years ago they would have been in a great position with the advent of AI. They could've marketed themselves as a site for humans. But no, fuckfacepoweruser found an answer to a different question he believes answers your question so marked your question as a duplicate and fuckfacerubberstamper voted to close it in the queue without critically thinking about it.

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[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 week ago

Oh no, poor AI won't know where to feed anymore. Anyway...

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago
[–] echodot@feddit.uk 34 points 1 week ago (4 children)

It's not that developers are switching to AI tools it's that stack overflow is awful and has been for a long time. The AI tools are simply providing a better alternative, which really demonstrates how awful stack overflow is because the AI tools are not that good.

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[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

I've posted questions, but I don't usually need to because someone else has posted it before. this is probably the reason that AI is so good at answering these types of questions.

the trouble now is that there's less of a business incentive to have a platform like stack overflow where humans are sharing knowledge directly with one another, because the AI is just copying all the data and delivering it to the users somewhere else.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 24 points 1 week ago (13 children)

Works well for now. Wait until there's something new that it hasn't been trained on. It needs that Stack Exchange data to train on.

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[–] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The hot concept around the late 2000's and early 2010's was crowdsourcing: leveraging the expertise of volunteers to build consensus. Quora, Stack Overflow, Reddit, and similar sites came up in that time frame where people would freely lend their expertise on a platform because that platform had a pretty good rule set for encouraging that kind of collaboration and consensus building.

Monetizing that goodwill didn't just ruin the look and feel of the sites: it permanently altered people's willingness to participate in those communities. Some, of course, don't mind contributing. But many do choose to sit things out when they see the whole arrangement as enriching an undeserving middleman.

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[–] furzegulo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 1 week ago

go ai, go broke

[–] gravitywell@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What are the odds the classic "expertsexchange" ends up out lasting stack exchange?

[–] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

expertsexchange

I see they have rebranded their domain with a dash. When did that happen?

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[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Already before the LLMs for me it was the last chance before I would post over there. The desperation move. It was too toxic and I would always get pissed to get my question closed because too similar or too easy or whatever. Hey I wasted 15 minutes to type that, if the other question solved the problem I wouldn't post again...

In the beginning it wasn't like that...

I went to watch my stack overflow account and the first questions that I posted (and that gave me 2000 karma) would have been almost all of them rejected and removed

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[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 20 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I mean, people who don't want their questions or answers included in an LLM won't use SO. When people want to ask a question and not be shut down or berated, they'll probably end up on HN.

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[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

But what will the mods close for arbitrary reasons before there are any responses?

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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

"Search before asking!" - Stack Overflow

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Serious question here. LLMs trained their data off SO. Developers now ask LLMs for solutions instead of SO. New technology comes out that LLMs don’t have indexed. Where will LLMs get their data to train on for new technologies? You can’t exactly feed it a manual and expect it to extrapolate or understand (for that matter “what manual).

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