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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 171 points 6 days ago (29 children)

I cannot imagine being such a dimwit as to be one of the people just now waking up to this.

I mean....did these people really not see his first term? Did they really think that the only reason he failed in his first term was because of Covid?

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 86 points 6 days ago (6 children)

"What do you mean? Covid happened under Biden, as did anything else bad that happened during Trump's presidency. "

Unironically have had to walk people through the timeline because they seriously believe covid entirely happened during Biden's term.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 26 points 6 days ago (1 children)

And for those that think you're joking. The showdy is often relevant.

I forgot about the O'Reily clip. Impressive levels of cognitive dissonance that people go through to justify their feelings on events. I'm still baffled that people can misremember basic timelines facts involved with one of the biggest disruptions of people's lifetimes that only had happened a few years ago. Realizing how fictional people's memories were about even recent major events made it a lot more understandable how people were so easily manipulated in to thinking a billionaire conartist was somehow going to try to help them this time.

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[–] ImInLoveWithLife@lemmy.zip 45 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The majority of my coworkers have casually stated the last week, "I don't agree with the way this is all happening.", but still overall support the agenda and hold their line. It's a combination of ignorance and stupidity. They're just fascists without even knowing. I live in a deep red area and from what I can gather when I hear talk out in the street, most people are either completely unaware or excited "they're taking America back." There is no convincing these people. I have tried for years and years, and when they seem to hear you and begin to digest what you've said, they come back the next day more sure than before that Facebook and Fox keep them informed. Many of them can't tell you what the three branches of government are or how many Senators there are or provide correct answers on the simplest of civics questions.

[–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 31 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It’s truly incomprehensible to most blue/libs that magas and conservatives are genuinely and permanently deranged cultists

They really believe it’s possible to use words and logic to convince them of things, hence the poster being confused why they aren’t convinced of anything

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Because our elected officials refuse to talk like this and many constantly stress how bipartisan they try to be with everything. Saying "about 35% of this country are raving psychopaths who can not be compromised with and must be disempowered" is not an easy feel good campaign message but it's what people need to hear.

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[–] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 29 points 6 days ago (3 children)

A majority of Americans polled in the survey -- 58% -- characterized Trump’s first year of his second term as a “failure,” according to the poll.

Just 42% of respondents said Trump’s second term has been a success.

Imagine how dim the 42% must be.

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[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 22 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (6 children)

The majority of Americans have significant, legitimate material and social grievances that cause them real harm and suffering. Most are surrounded by a curated low-information media environment and society that reinforces punching down, zero sum in-out group thought, scapegoating, etc. And the only official political choice they're ever allowed is between two preselected corporate stooges.

I think we're the dimwits if we're confused as to why Trump has so much inertia.

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[–] radio@sh.itjust.works 96 points 6 days ago (2 children)

He has virtually no support from Democrats while 9 in 10 Republicans back Trump.

Nothing has changed. The fascists still like fascism, they just wish eggs were a little cheaper.

[–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 22 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I don’t want to live in the same country with these people.

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[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 23 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Except there are fewer people identifying as Republican than ever before so that statistic doesn't mean all that much. When people go from approving to disapproving of Trump they just leave the GOP because it's a cult that is extremely hostile to dissent, so the ratio of Republicans who approve of him stays high while his popularity with the general public continues to go down.

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[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 47 points 6 days ago (5 children)

I legitimately cannot comprehend polls where people who voted for Trump in 2024 changed their minds.

Trump- "Hey I'm going to do all this terrible shit"

Voters- "I'm going to vote for Trump presumably because I like his platform"

Trump- *does exactly what he said he was going to do*

Voters- >:(

[–] spizzat2@lemmy.zip 35 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I recently overheard a conversation between two people complaining about how, after the election, their friends unfollowed anyone who followed Trump.

Their argument was "I only voted for one issue. It's not like I have time to know everything."

It was an aggravating interaction, but also a strong reminder of just how ignorant the average voter is.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I only voted for one issue.

Hm, I wonder what that was.

Regardless, it's not like someone is going to spend four years on one issue.

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

IKR? These people wanted to pretend they were picked on, the poor dears, for espousing small government, personal responsibility, waging war on "socialized medicine", trading wicked memes about "Going Galt" or how the nine most terrifying words in the English language are "I'm from the government and I'm here to help".

No, it's always about them wanting to force people to host the worst versions of what a human being might say on their private platforms - spreading xenophobia, anti-gay, anti-trans, misogynist hate speech, or spreading outright lies about, oh, I don't know, a pandemic.

Gosh, I wonder why what offends conservatives the most is when people want to disassociate from them for this last stuff? I mean, if it's not a central plank of their movement and their platform?

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I think a lot of them heard what they wanted to hear. Certainly few wanted to read anything about Project 2025, even though it was a click away. Or voted with their "tribe" and know next to nothing about that tribe's decades long platform, Taco's specific agenda, Project 2025's agenda, or the conservative "movement" that underlies all of it.

Or they were simply racist AF and thought all the undesirables were going to be whisked away as if by magic and without any kind of visible consequences like women shot and children gassed. Or they thought he "didn't really mean it" but he's a miracle-worker on the economy...

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[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago

Was there an option in the poll to say he's a traitor and a pedophile?

[–] Martinus@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago (4 children)

"Failure" and "gone too far" are understatements and give the impression it was all by accident.

Project 2025 is 50% complete. That is not a failure.

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[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 16 points 5 days ago

Oh no the polls lmao.

Meanwhile citizens are murdered in the streets. Glad THE POLLS are going to fix that real fast

[–] switcheroo@lemmy.world 31 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Apparently a lot of people in the US don't think mocking a disabled person to be "too far". Or raping children.

Fucking morons.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

The US has a cancerous culture of selfish, self-centered narcissism and blind, feudal loyalty to money and those with money. No amount of monstrousness tugs the heartstrings until it impacts them personally. Slowly, those same selfish, evil, self-centered scum are realizing that the suffering they wanted to inflict on others impacts them. They will gain no self-awareness from this and learn nothing, continuing to metastasize even even after Trumpsolini is finally dead and rotting in the ground.

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[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Uh... and what exactly are these americans doing about it...?

[–] kadu@scribe.disroot.org 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Sharing angry rehearsed AOC videos on Reddit and writing "wake up america 😡", aren't they brave? Isn't that the greatest opposition you've ever seen?

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Protests are becoming more frequent around here, even in the cold Southerners are not prepared for. This weekend I drove under a FUCK ICE protest on an overpass, with a FUCK ICE sticker on my car, to a store and passed a panhandler with a giant FUCK THE POLICE sign. Then my Mexican neighbors reached out to thank me for putting the sticker on my car. I feel a sense of alignment around me. I'm in Arkansas of all places. (I'm omitting quite a bit of anti-trans shit this weekend but that's another story).

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[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 44 points 6 days ago (1 children)

42% approving is way way too high.

[–] designated_fridge@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah this is the scary part. Idiots like Trump will always exist. The fact that so many Americans will follow an idiot is the worrying part.

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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 days ago

Fuckin' big media. Continually bobbing cat toys up and down just above our heads so we swipe like fools. Bring back truthful journalism again, not big media.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 12 points 5 days ago

Just 42% of respondents said Trump’s second term has been a success.

I'm not sure 42% approval is a disaster. In Europe that wold be an amazing result. Even in USA with all the gerrymandering, voter suppression laws and constitution in general giving advantage to red states that could be enough for them to win another term. Definitely enough to stop democrats from getting anything done.

[–] rauls5@lemmy.zip 26 points 6 days ago (7 children)

The only thing these polls demonstrate to me is that about 40% of the voters are morons and should be stripped of the right to vote.

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 20 points 6 days ago (4 children)

A practice that has never gone wrong or been misused in American history! 👍

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[–] Xilia112@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Man, here at france, patrs has burned for way less than this.

I hope they eventually wake up and see that the only way to stop this obvious dictatorship forming is torches and pitchforks. But modernized.

[–] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 13 points 5 days ago

Here in the UK, we were promised millions per week for the NHS, better jobs and "oven ready deals" to replace our relationship with the EU. Over 50% of people who voted fell for that bullshit. Some are upscaling to the further right Reform (UKs equivalent to MAGA). Telling bold lies will fool too many people, again and again. We cannot sit back. The motivated gobshites will vote us into oblivion.

[–] Baphomet_The_Blasphemer@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago (3 children)

His first term was a failure, I don't even know how to describe his second so far.

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[–] GutterRat42@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

We told you. God damn it, we voted against this. People forgot in 4 years why we voted him out!!!!!! They all can go get bent!!!!!

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago

He has virtually no support from Democrats while 9 in 10 Republicans back Trump.

So, ‘disastrous’ in the sense of clickbait headlines, but in practical terms, A-OK.

[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Does reading a "trump low in the polls" article or two every day make you feel better or optimistic?

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[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Meanwhile, project 2025 is ongoing. They'll discard him once they're done having him absorb all the outrage and providing plenty of distraction.

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[–] MiDaBa@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 days ago

Don't worry, once they gain control over the last few independent news outlets and restructure social media algorithms they'll be able to manipulate public perception to the point where they have broad public support. Especially when the ai bots wear the opposition out by convincing them they're alone in their left wing views. Tech bros are ready to destroy democracy for profit.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I feel majority of americans are in some sort of collective self destructive delusion. Thats the only way you can explain trump presidency - people didn't vote for him, they voted for self harm because they're sick.

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Lol, what? No, we don't say he's gone too far. We say he's a criminal who shouldn't be in office in the first fucking place. Get the fuck out of here with your standard political opposition speak.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I really feel that this latest poll will finally start the fire that burns his "Whitehouse of doom" down. /s

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[–] MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Hyperbole aside…the fascists have already taken strong steps to suppress, disqualify and gerrymander away Democratic votes to extend the large advantages they already had.

Before Trump Dems needed to be +3 to win, when he was elected they needed +5…just to overcome Republican cheating. We’re looking at as much as a 10% margin required going forward.

42%, if that’s even a real numberr, coupd more than enough to secure a victory. This isn’t even accounting for the fact that Trump and his cult will just change the numbers if they lose.

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