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[–] Lorka@feddit.dk 35 points 3 days ago (2 children)

AI have made pirating legal, as long as you are not pirating for personal enjoyment. Isn’t that the defence the AI companies have used successfully?

Its just tribal politics.

While authority exists, everything it can touch is tribal politics and bullshit abstraction layers on top of them. Literally everything.

And terrorism. Tribal politics and terrorism.

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[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 103 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Is this the music industry asking for more than all the money in the world again?

Yes, I did say again.

[–] Bakkoda@lemmy.zip 33 points 4 days ago

LINE MUST GO UP. ANY LINE ACTUALLY. WE'RE FUCKIN DESPERATE.

  • Businesses everywhere
[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 22 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Well, more along the lines of 10% of all the worlds money.

... very reasonable indeed 😜

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[–] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 66 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Apparently it's legal and acceptable to demand, through a court, enough money to destroy the world economy.

Seriously, if I were the judge I'd throw out the lawsuit until they come up with a remotely realistic number. As it is, it makes the whole lawsuit look like a joke.

[–] Insekticus@aussie.zone 19 points 3 days ago (3 children)

The whole lawsuit is a joke.

And it should be permanently thrown out and not seen again because of how unserious that number is.

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The gratuitous vulgar nonsense of it is the point. Its LBJ slapping his cock on the desk during a serious meeting to drive home that you cant fucking stop him

[–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 4 days ago (1 children)

May all lawyers involved die in the most horrible way possible. Actually scratch that, May all corporate lawyers regardless of involvement die in the most horrible way possible. ☺️

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Change is about the only thing I got because of corporate greed

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 60 points 4 days ago (3 children)

we have stood with the artist community against piracy

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Anna's archive is not giving you song downloads, but rather metadata

over a massive music data scrape

So when are you going to sue AI companies?

[–] cyberwolfie@lemmy.ml 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Correct me if I’m wrong, but Anna’s archive is not giving you song downloads, but rather metadata

Were they not going to release the songs as well? They just started with the metadata?

ETA: Yes, this is from their blog post about it:

The data will be released in different stages on our Torrents page:

[X] Metadata (Dec 2025)
[ ] Music files (releasing in order of popularity)
[ ] Additional file metadata (torrent paths and checksums)
[ ] Album art
[ ] .zstdpatch files (to reconstruct original files before we added embedded metadata)

[–] Naich@lemmings.world 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

You can't sue people for something they haven't done yet. Presumably if and when the actual music files are released the damages will go up proportionally - probably to something like $(volume of the universe / Planck distance^3)

[–] cyberwolfie@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 days ago

I am not sure the shareholders will accept such a meager compensation. Did you include emotional damage in your estimate?

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[–] far_university1990@reddthat.com 18 points 4 days ago

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Anna's archive is not giving you song downloads, but rather metadata

200gb meta, 300tb music. Just 300tb not released yet. Might be, might not.

So when are you going to sue AI companies?

I think some sue suno and settle for money. And GEMA (germany) sue openai for songtext.

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[–] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 12 points 3 days ago

spotify and major music labels should be sued for 13 trillion

[–] foodandart@lemmy.zip 223 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

The fact that Anna's Archive isn't responding to the court tells me they couldn't give a shit about the lawsuit.

Glorious.

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 89 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

"Sir, this is Wendys" energy.

[–] Alb@sh.itjust.works 58 points 5 days ago (4 children)
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[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago

Is this why the Spotify section on their torrent page says "Unavailable until further notice."?

[–] sefra1@lemmy.zip 33 points 4 days ago (2 children)

How do you even sue a shadow library? Aren't they like, behind 7 proxies?

[–] slothrop@lemmy.ca 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Plus, they're using the neighbour's internet!
Checkmate, spotify!

[–] Camille_Jamal@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

Ohhhhh that’s why internet’s been slow lately

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[–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 161 points 5 days ago
[–] veeesix@lemmy.ca 143 points 5 days ago (6 children)

And how much of that hypothetical $13 Trillion would be shared the poor, poor artists?

When this whole thing with Lily Allen was a thing, where she got more from posting feet pic on OnlyFans than from Spotify, someone posted an article that said Spotify is paying out like 150k-200k per month just for her streams. And yet only a tiny fraction of that ends up with her. Music labels fucking suck.

[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 62 points 5 days ago

Roughly $0.00002/a/s/l/m

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[–] Min3r@kitty.ly 27 points 4 days ago

They're gonna shit when they find out about yt-dlp

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 91 points 5 days ago (1 children)

$13.000.000.000.000

Like, are we 12 now? I too would come up with these bazonker numbers at that age.

Fuck Spotify,fuck the current legal system that got us here

[–] ArseAssassin@sopuli.xyz 25 points 4 days ago (5 children)

The higher the number, the more the stock goes up when they announce it. Should be opposite though really if these guys are incompetent enough to lose $13 trillion because of a single pirate.

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[–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 65 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Weird, I wasn't aware that Spotify OWNED this music. I'm fairly certain they they only license it.

[–] VibeSurgeon@piefed.social 10 points 3 days ago

Spotify and Major Music Labels

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[–] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Spotify doesn't even have that much net worth how the hell one can steal more than that anyway? Also this isn't even stealing just a digital copy sent by spotify servers

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Probably theorizing every potential peer is pulling the whole archive.
So net worth * 100.000 potential peers = $$$

[–] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Perhaps Anna can pay them off with theoretical potential money too? Like, a big collection of monkey NFTs.

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[–] Chais@sh.itjust.works 35 points 4 days ago

13 fantastillion dollars

[–] LazerDickMcCheese@sh.itjust.works 81 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Friendly reminder that streaming services have negatively impacted artists and art cultivation. Headbanging while blackout drunk at a dive bar gig, without directly giving the band(s) a penny, would help them more than their semiannual Spotify payout

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[–] slothrop@lemmy.ca 75 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If the litigants suffered these tremendous losses bc of AA, can they not deduct these losses from their taxes?

Oh, wait...

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[–] Feyd@programming.dev 69 points 5 days ago (2 children)

These numbers are always shitty napkin math that assumes every pirate would be a paying customer even though a lot of them don't have the money to even spend as much as they calculate, would just skip jumping through all the hoops they've created or don't even have a legal way to purchase in their country. Completely brazen lies every time

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[–] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 49 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That's about as realistic as the Russian court that fined Google for two undecillion roubles.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 25 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That's about 20 bucks though.

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[–] fyrilsol@kbin.melroy.org 56 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I had a double take on that number they're asking for.

$13 Trillion? Geez, fucking greedy much? Not that they haven't been greedy before, but we're used to seeing millions and billions that are asked per track (technically they'd ask ridiculous sums of like $10,000 ~ even $100,000 per track in the past). But this just glaringly demonstrate how greedy these fucks really are and they just gotta tell everyone about it.

I still say it was dumb of Anna to bother with Spotify but I like the defiance of just not caring.

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[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 33 points 5 days ago (1 children)
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[–] etherphon@midwest.social 50 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Lol, who'd they consult on that number, Joe Rogan? Fuck Spotify, another leech company getting rich off the talent of others.

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