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[–] _number8_@lemmy.world 113 points 8 months ago (2 children)

the fact that they actually hit the restart button was so insanely unnecessary and cruel. 60% seems high really

[–] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 60 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The cruelty is the point. You gotta use the whip to motivate your ‘workers’ right.

[–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

It's one of the classic conservative rules: "Rich people perform better for money and poor people perform better when starved."

[–] half_fiction@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Not sure what proportion of loans it accounts for, but the 60% figure probably also includes people like me who currently have $0 monthly payments. Hilariously every month it takes 3 days to "process" my "auto-debit payment" of $0 but I imagine those are all being marked as "paid" in the system.

[–] VeryNiiiice@sh.itjust.works 12 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Be careful. Mine has $0 monthly payments for some years but is still accruing interest.

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[–] numberfour002@lemmy.world 59 points 8 months ago

The whole ordeal is/was a colossal screw up.

The student loan company I had to deal with lied to me and made no apologies about it. When I submitted an official complaint through the Federal Student Aid site, it wasn't handled by some government agent or a 3rd party supervisor, it was handled by a customer service rep working for the student loan company. It was literally "we investigated ourselves and found we did nothing wrong" kind of thing.

Having said that, you may still want to file a complaint if you have had issues with the USA's loan servicing - https://studentaid.gov/feedback-center/. It's probably delusional, but I feel like at least having an official record of the report could be helpful down the line at some point. Maybe one day the Federal government will seriously investigate, or maybe one day there will be a lawsuit and at least an official complaint could serve as evidence you were impacted.

[–] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 43 points 8 months ago (5 children)

We don’t have to pay for the first year, interest accrues, but you don’t become delinquent. Either I completely misread the agreement I signed, and so did many others including journalists.

More likely, this particular article is garbage.

[–] lolrightythen@lemmy.world 35 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Well that's even harsher. They'll let you build up some principal before garnishment.

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[–] mspencer712@programming.dev 42 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Wait don’t do that. They garnish wages for student debt. They’re happy to do it, too, as they get to keep a big chunk of extra fees that way.

[–] joekar1990@lemmy.world 28 points 8 months ago

While agree that not paying you are just sinking youself deeper especially since you can’t declare bankruptcy and get rid of the debt. The Biden administration put an on-ramp period in place so that it would reduce any penalties for not paying. Repayments start

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

Time to start working under the table.

This is what happens when the social contract unravels.

[–] crsu@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Just wait until they bring back debtors prisons to fix the labor shortage

[–] thatgirlwasfire@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

How would removing people from the labor force fix the shortage? Did debtors prisons have you work for companies or something?

[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

The 13th amendment outlaws the practice of slavery, except for prisoners. A possible (legally questionable and morally objectionable) solution is to throw those who can’t pay in prison, then force them into labor as prisoners, and use that labor to pay their debts, after they pay room/board of course, thus ensuring they never escape their bonds

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 6 points 8 months ago

The answer to your questions is slavery with extra steps.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

That takes a lot of work and a court order. You can avoid that by making a token payment say of five dollars once a month.

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 41 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Millions of borrowers have probably gotten themselves into situations where they can't make their payments.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 31 points 8 months ago

Honestly, why the fuck should they? Mohela is a perfect example of how impressively bad the restart of payments went. Absolutely bottled it. People paid, didn't register, they reported late payments then magically everything was ok... until the next payment.

The entire restart was an absolute shit show. Fuck em.

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 36 points 8 months ago (5 children)

This could be good. If students default en mass congress might be forced to enact debt forgiveness

[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 21 points 8 months ago

You got some wishful thinking there buddy.

[–] Hyperlon@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago

No, they'll just garnish your wages

[–] vonbaronhans@midwest.social 14 points 8 months ago (10 children)

Unfortunately student loans are one of the few types of loans you cannot default on or get relief through bankruptcy. From what I understand, anyway.

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[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 32 points 8 months ago

Hold the line until every single executive at Bear, Goldman, and AIG pays back their bonuses.

[–] catbaba@lemmus.org 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 18 points 8 months ago

This article is way back in 2020. Two douchebags went to the Supreme Court to stop the White House from forgiving debt.

[–] alienanimals@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Fuck the greedy bankers taking advantage of students trying to gain an education. They deserve to get fucked and every American citizen deserves an education.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Fuck the universities too. Why do they cost so much in the U.S.A.?

[–] GutsBerserk@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Fucking usurer scum. The real cancer of our planet. How is this bs fair?

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[–] baascus@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago

Politics aside, as someone who defaulted on student loans years ago, don’t do that. It is a decision that will follow you for a ridiculously long time with little recourse.

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