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Not vegan, but hate the idea that they're made fun of for trying to spread awareness. I'm not including the militant vegans here. They do more damage than they fix.
I'm sure some people do it from a high horse but vegans are far from the only type of people that do that. And the message is absolutely important, besides the cruelty part, eating animals is a huge part of the climate change problem.
it’s not because they are trying to spread awareness. now obviously not all blah blah blah., but they have a tendency to be highly sanctimonious and abrasive, they accept no partial measures and treat it like like a cult would in the eve of the coolaid tasting party.
kind hard to see their point of view in the other end of a carnist label spat at you.
All she did was prove sherpas aren't weak.
Man this comment section is a dumpster fire
Ain't it great?
I used to own an ice cream shop, and we had vegan ice cream, and a pretty good following for it. I got so I could recognize them as they were walking from their car.
One quiet day, I saw this older couple start getting out of their car, and I said to my assistant "They're vegan." She asked how I knew, and I said "Just look at them, they're obviously vegan." She said "But they're so old." "You'll see," I said.
They walked in, and the first thing the old guy said was "We hear you have vegan ice cream, we're vegans!" and I could sense my assistant's head swivel to look at me in my peripheral vision.
As I made his ice cream, he went on to tell me how his wife makes vegan steaks so good, I wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Yes, I could.
There is no way they were the first vegans in 2016. There have been 100+ ascents per year for decades, should have been around 6000 in total as of 2016.
Considering the mountain is in a part of the world where significant parts of the population are de-facto vegans without identifying as such, I highly doubt that no one among the 6k people before them was living on a plant based diet
Yeah and like half of the climbers I know are vegan or at least vegetarian. There is a huge overlap in those groups.
Also the Sherpas serve oatmeal to the climbers anyways
There is no way they were the first vegans in 2016. There have been 100+ ascents per year
After her death a vegan among them would have spoken out. Could be that they all tried Yak butter and can't claim the title anymore.
bro vegans are so dumb they're depriving themselves of key nutrients and become weak and constantly tired.
that's wrong, let me prove it to you by climbing the fucking everest
bro vegans are so annoying and why won't they shut the fuck up about it
the carnist intellectuals have come out in force I see
It's crazy how mad people get every time a Vegan exists
It really challenges a certain type of persons ego. I don't really get it.
weirdly defensive too, your conscience nagging again bud 🤔
I think her dying trying is an important part of the point here.
I don't agree with it. I'm sure there's a more nuanced cause of death, but that's between step 2 and 3.
Right I went with the most charitable reading.
lol stupid vegan dies because we were right about veganism causing malnutrition get owned
is of course the interpretation that seems the most obvious
Vegans call themselves vegans and they get to call others "carnists"? I've been hearing them calling others "meateaters" too. It's so reductive of people who don't agree with their ideas.
Huh? What would you call someone who cares about animal exploitation, and what should we call those that don't?
I don't go over my day calling people names. It's not hard for me to call them as they want them to be called, and if I don't know that, they are just people like me.
Carnist is a description of someone who has a meat-inclusive diet, other descriptions of people by what they can or cannot eat are e.g. vegan, lactose intolerant, celiac... It's not a "name" you call someone, it's a description of someone using a certain aspect of them relevant to the discussion.
A "name", as in, something used to insult would be e.g. corpsemuncher, bloodmouth, cheesebreth &c.
It's used as a pejorative. It's disingenuous to pretend otherwise.
I mean in the same way as "terf" I guess
another user said it's like how christians call non-believers sinners. that makes sense to me.
Most people are apathetic, and a chunk of those are due to ignorance. Calling them carnists likely isn't helping the cause at all.
This seems like the data from McDonalds Lobby coorperations.
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Eww, sourced from rooshvforum.com
