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I was eating some chocolate when I imagined a world where Hershey's was widely accepted, even by elitists, as the best chocolate.

Is consumer elitism just a facade for pretentious contrarians? Or are there things where even most snobs agree with the masses?

Also, I mean that the product is intrinsically considered to be the best option. I'm not considering social products where the user network makes the experience.

Edit: I was not eating Hershey's. Hershey's being the best chocolate is a bizarro universe in this hypothetical.

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[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

In terms of why some of the "goto" brands aren't the best, it's generally because they were the best, got popular on merit, and then business folk come along to suck the life out of it, spending brand goodwill while gouging customers and cutting costs.

Some food product recipe changes to cheap, more shelf stable crap for mass production and easy logistics. Some device gets locked into a paid subscription. All the helpful service people get fired and replaced with chat bots and offshored/outsourced staff. Metal components replaced with cheap plastic that degrades. Shipping times increased so they can make everything an ocean away and give the boat time to travel. Also run big marketing pushes so it's really hard to find the quality offerings.

There's just so many ways you can have big margins on big revenue by screwing customers while going they haven't noticed the decline in quality. Very hard for investor class to leave good product alone.

[–] Alberat@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Amazon's delivery time is insane. I use other services like eBay for the most part, but when I need something fast idk who else to use besides Amazon.

[–] Eufalconimorph@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

And the ability to schedule deliveries to happen on a day of the week when you're likely to be present. And the notifications that your delivery is near, so you can be ready to pick it up (important for expensive items).

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Never actually tried that because delivery times are so insane. When I’ve wanted to schedule a specific day, I’ve gotten same day or by 6am delivery, making it moot

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

Hershey in a sentence with "chocolate" without a negation? This is weird.

When someone offered me a piece of Hersheys "chocolate" ages ago I spit it out and asked if this is perhaps spoiled. No, it wasn't spoiled, this stuff actually tastes vile. I don't know how Americans can stand this stuff...

[–] ptc075@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I'm thinking about things where the brand name has become "the name" of the thing. Kleenex & Google come to mind. Here in the SE corner of the USA, we say "Coke" instead of soda or pop.

Apparently, there's a name for this. "Generic Trademark". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_trademark

Also, I really like Hershey's. Family grew up not far from their site, was always the chocolate we had as kids. So I like your bizarro universe. :D

[–] oopsgodisdeadmybad@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago

Younger me, working in a warehouse job came across one that I found hilarious.

We used pallet sized boxes to move stuff around. But it was really more of a short cardboard tube, square shaped but only flaps on the bottom, there was no actual top or bottom side.

And what was it called? It was a "gaylord".

I thought for sure that they were pushing me as the new guy, but everyone I came across used the term so naturally and consistently. Even when I worked at a separate site for a while, everyone there used it too. I never looked into it farther, but I eventually accepted it.

I don't remember if I ever did it with a straight face, but that's what I called them.

[–] gigastasio@sh.itjust.works 39 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I’d say musical instruments.

Even an entry-level Fender Squier guitar is going to be more solid, easier to set up and keep in tune, and have better tone than an off brand instrument. Yamaha also makes beginner/student models for a large variety of instruments, all of which are designed to last for years.

I’m hard-pressed to think of any small brand that makes anything widely preferred over the recognizable ones.

[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

I would disagree with this quite strongly. Most brands have several different tiers of products. Often, especially for the budget-level options like Squiers, the manufacturing is outsourced. For example, my first electric guitar was from Cort, a South Korean company whose main business at the time was doing contract manufacturing for Ibanez, Squier, PRS, and G&L, Kramer, Honer, and more. Literally the same wood and parts, just with slightly different shapes and branding.

The highest-end, elitist guitars would be small shops that focus on handmade custom work. Stuff like Dunable or what PRS used to be. Jackson is now owned by Fender, but it used to be a more premium brand. Custom shop stuff is always going to be premium regardless of brand- Schecter, Ibanez, Dean, Gibson, Fender, doesn't matter.

To compare this to OP's prompt, it would be like if Hershey did custom high-quality chocolate options, also sold good quality chocolate, and also sold a decent value option in grocery stores, and also sold the plastic brown goop they sell today as a budget option.

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[–] Curious_Canid@piefed.ca 23 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Leatherman plier-based multitools. They invented the category and they continue to be the top choice. You can get cheaper tools that are adequate, but Leatherman always has some of the best designs, reliably high quality, and outstanding support. I'm constantly trying new tools from all over, but I always end up carrying one Leatherman or another.

[–] Vandals_handle@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Swiss Army knife with tools predates the leatherman by a century, leatherman might have been first with pliers but did not invent the category.

[–] Curious_Canid@piefed.ca 2 points 6 days ago

I did specify that I was talking about plier-based tools in my original response.

I grew up with Swiss Army knives, back before Leatherman was in business. (Yes, I am that old.) I still carry a Rambler with me everywhere I go.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 points 6 days ago

My Skeletool is one of my favorite possessions. I was genuinely upset when it broke (doing something very aggressive with it, not because of any flaw) but it turned out their warranty is legit and I got it back good as new. They even gave me new bits for it when they sent it back.

[–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I used to agree with you, but their prices have gone up and they've been transforming themselves into a high end lifestyle brand.

My Charge is now almost 20 years old and still going strong, so I'm nit saying their products are bad, but I'm not seeing real innovation come out of them and I'd honestly say for most people a Wave clone is probably good enough. They're totally phoning it in on small tools as well, China is way ahead of them on design.

[–] Curious_Canid@piefed.ca 1 points 6 days ago

For me, the Free series was a significant innovation, but it all depends on what aspect matter to you.

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[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Lego is the best of the blocks/bricks. Nothing else is close in quality.

[–] dangrousperson@feddit.org 11 points 6 days ago

used to be, but in the last couole of years Legos quality has only gone down, while the price stayed high. Lego now has the same 'quality issues' that the other manufacturers have at more than double the price. Lego includes ugly stickers in $500+ 'Ultimate Collector Sets', which is just a joke, while the competition has printed bricks in most sets these days (super cheap sets still have stickers).

Explanation: Up until 2010 LEGO had a trademark/copyright on their Bricks, but a EU Court decided that the interlocking design can't be trademarked as a 'functional, technical shape'. Before then, mostly incredibly cheap Chinese knockoffs existed, since then other manufacturers have been improving quality control and in some cases surpassing LEGO now.

Check out: BlueBrixx, Cada, Cobi, Mould King

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[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (11 children)

Cpu architecture. X86 is just a lot easier to deal with compared to risc-v arm, or Apple.

I’m hopeful it will change though, and I’m rooting for risc-v.

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[–] makeshiftreaper@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Probably soda. I think most people enjoy Coke/Pepsi and the other mainstream choices are usually considered superior to the small batch artisan stuff

I'll allow that with a big asterisk, if you consider Mexican Coke as coke then yes, its one of the best sodas. If not, there are way better options.

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[–] village604@adultswim.fan 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Camping supplies, especially backpacking gear (and especially ultralite gear).

But most of the top equipment brands have legitimate, no questions asked, lifetime warranties.

Also, camping stores. I'll pay a bit extra to get my gear from REI because the employees will spend hours making sure you get a backpack or boots that fit you perfectly.

You can get similar stuff from no-name brands on Amazon, but it's not going to be the same quality.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Yeah, as afflicted by compromises as some popular products become in the name of profit, the random brands on Amazon/temu show how even worse it can be. Usually the big brand shows at least a little restraint to avoid burning their brand value to the ground too quickly, but the no names with their knockoffs go full throttle into the ground.

[–] 87Six@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 week ago

Cars.

The more boring, mass produced, commonly available, mass-purchased, bare bones bitch of a second-hand car will probably last the longest because of more spare parts available, cheaper labor and more reliable maintenance due to very common repair processes, and a crazy amount of information available online.

[–] darklamer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 week ago (11 children)

It's of course a bit fuzzy what The Best really means, but I'd say that toothpaste would be an excellent example, for I've never encountered anyone, be they laymen, dentists or health nuts, arguing that there is some other toothpaste that's really better in any meaningful way than the offerings from the big best-selling mainstream brands.

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