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I see this come up a lot in discussions about voting in America. Postal votes disproportionately go to Democrats, hence the Democrats want to expand postal voting while Republicans want to restrict it (and insist there is totally a bunch of fraud going on).

I've googled with a few search engines and haven't found a convincing reason. Lots of evidence that the skew is real, but no explanation as to why. Indeed, if one just looks at demographics, one would expect postal voting to benefit Republicans by facilitating votes from people in the countryside who live far away from voting centers.

So what actually gives?

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[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Leading up to the 2020 presidential election, Donald Trump urged his voters to vote in person while Democrats promoted voting by mail due to Covid pandemic. Steve Bannon was secretly recorded saying that this was the Trump Campaign's plan to falsely claim the election was stolen. Steve Bannon does not deny saying this. By law, votes can't be tallied until polls close. Mail in ballots take longer to process because envelopes have to be opened, info needs to be verified then the vote can be counted. In person ballot results are faster because verification has already taken place and in many places ballots are scanned waiting to counted by a machine. Of course this is how it went down.

So to answer your question, Republican voters have a distrust for mail in voting. Largely because a president of the United States told his supporters to vote in person. During a pandemic.

[–] Hasherm0n@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

You've gotten some good answers already so I'm going to comment on something unrelated, mostly because I've had a couple glasses of wine and for some reason found this hysterical.

I've googled with a few search engines....

I'm old enough to remember search before Google, the rise of Google and the verbification of Google's name to become a term to meaning to search with Google. To see it now used in this way is deeply funny to me for some reason. Incredible to see how language evolves over time.

[–] yogurt@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago

It's just covid, before covid mail votes were proportional, then voting by mail was encouraged to avoid spreading covid. That made the number of Democrats voting by mail go up and the number of Republicans go down out of spite. Republican politicians just followed the reflex of Republican voters to resent prosocial behavior and tried to make use of it.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 hours ago

voting favours dems. Easier voting favours voting.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Its kinda funny because its actually older folk that actually need it. When available though I think left folk like it. I likenot having to write myself a cheat sheet and can just fill out the ballot while I research the canidates.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Older folk have nothing going on. I have a job. I don't get time off to vote. I mail in because of that.

[–] susi7802@sopuli.xyz 13 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Maga still hasn’t figured out how to lick a stamp.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

That can't be true. Licking a stamp can't be much different than licking a boot.

I think it's more likely that they're illiterate. Mailing a letter requires you to write the destination address. Something they can't figure out.

[–] Poik@pawb.social 8 points 7 hours ago

Their poor wives.

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 28 points 11 hours ago

The more people that vote, the more people vote democrat. republicans are doing literally everything they can to disenfranchise voters, because it's the only way they can win elections. I mean, they stole the last presidential election after failing to do it the previous time. I'm not so sure we'll have an election in 2028, the pipeline of "sending untrained militia into the streets hoping to spark an incident that allows them an excuse to invoke martial law and cancel elections" is running very smoothly.

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 12 points 12 hours ago

People who vote dem are people with more interesting things to do than stand in line for hours.

[–] ChokingHazard@lemmy.world 25 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Because democrat voters out number Republican voters. If you increase the votes you increase the democrat votes by nature of increasing the number of votes collected. This isn’t factoring secondaries like demographics.

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

This explanation doesn't make sense mathematically, though. If the ratio of Democrat to Republican voters is fairly consistent amongst groups, increasing the number of people in any given group that votes will result in that same ratio, just with greater numbers. Saying otherwise is like saying you can add 2% milk to 2% milk to eventually get back to whole milk

The only way voting by mail helps Democrats is if the vote by mail crowd has a heavier democratic skew.

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 9 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Except when you add in the element of access to voting. Voting in-person on a work day isn't necessarily feasible for the average American. By enforcing in-person voting you disenfranchise the groups that are more heavily democratic (younger, working, lower/middle class).

That makes sense. I'm not an American but lived in the country for a number of years, so I understand some but not much of the culture.

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Republicans are fewer in number but far more reliable voters.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Brainwashed people do be like "Yes master" without fail.

[–] ChokingHazard@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

If fewer people vote, it often favors the republicans. When more people vote it goes the other way. If it’s 60:40 and 100 people vote that’s 20 people. If it’s a thousand it’s 200 more people. I have a strong suspicion that the Republican party has been cheating for a long time which is why they claim the democrats have to be when they win. They always tell on themselves.

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Let me show you an example. Let's use easy ratios for easy numbers, so let's say people vote Democrat to Republican 3:2.

If you have 100 people vote, you'll end up with 60 democratic votes, 40 Republican.

If you have 200 people vote, you'll have 120 Democrat votes, 80 Republican.

Increasing the number of total voters in this scenario will never change the outcome. 400 people? 240 to 160.

The only way getting more votes by mail will help Democrats win an election is if the ratio of Democrat to Republican voters is higher in mail-in voters compared to other population groups.

Or are you suggesting Democrats are less reliable voters, so getting them to vote increases the relative percentage of Democrat voters?

[–] ChokingHazard@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

That’s exactly what I’m suggesting.

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

I now understand and agree completely!

[–] psycotica0@lemmy.ca 33 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Cities tend to be more democratic than their surrounding area, but also tend to be more densely populated. So you can have a situation like this with hours long lines in busy areas, which heavily disrupt people's ability to have their vote registered.

So! The answer to that problem is mail-in voting! Vote in advance, with no lines, on your schedule! But the problem with city voting isn't always an accident, and so mail-in voting has obviously got to go too.

But anyway, I think that's your answer. It swings Democrat because other things have already happened to make voting in Democrat areas worse in other ways, and this seemed like a good alternative.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 9 points 16 hours ago

Yeah. It is important to note that mail-in voting is only like this in states executing various forms of voter suppression.

For western states that don't have this tradition of voter suppression, the results tend to be more mixed. For instance, Colorado saw Republicans get a bump when switching to mail-in ballots as it was thought that mobility hindered elderly voters found it easier to vote from home than have to travel to vote.

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 80 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Work.

Working people can't take off time to vote. Poor people can't take off time to vote. Students, teachers, can't take off time to vote. So in-person voting favors retirees, wealthy people, and business owners like farmers who can set their own hours.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 31 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Transport too. For a poor person getting to a specific place on a specific day is a thing. It's probably doable but if it's not a priority... and both sides are the same... and your kid is unwell... and your vote doesn't really make a difference.

OTOH a postal vote is very achievable.

[–] its_prolly_fine@sh.itjust.works 10 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Voting in cities is crazy. Like hours long wait times, you have to be very determined to vote. In person voting is much easier in less densely populated areas. Cities tend to be more liberal.

[–] ElectricWaterfall@lemmy.zip 3 points 12 hours ago

Depends on the local government in those cities. I’ve always lived in cities and never had to wait more than 5 minutes to vote.

[–] graycube@lemmy.world 35 points 18 hours ago

When you can control where the polling locations are, you can drastically under serve areas that don't vote republican. This discourages or even makes completely impossible voting in some areas. I live in a wealthy republican suburb. In the last 25 years there has never been much of a line to vote at any time of day. I can usually get in, vote, and be out in 15 minutes. Within a 20 minute drive of me, there are polling locations that have lines which take many hours to get through. Many people have to take time off of work, or leave their kids home alone to vote. Some people can't stand in line for that long due to health issues.

While mail in voting enables traveling businessmen, college students, military, the elderly and sick to vote - which probably doesn't overly favor either party - it does disrupt the polling location engineering which is intentionally designed to favor one party over the other.

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

It doesn’t. Florida is an example.

[–] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 58 points 21 hours ago

Anything that increases access to polls helps Dems because people like their policies more than the cruelty at the heart of fascism

[–] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 41 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

States with Republican control also have weird rules limiting number of polling places. Sometimes it's like "1 polling location per county" where a rural county of 5,000 does just fine with 1 polling location. But then a city with millions of people also gets 1. The goal is to create lines around the block in cities, where people will simply give up rather than vote. Cities favor Democrats, so Republicans try to limit voter turnout in cities.

Voting by mail completely eliminates these artificial hurdles.

[–] kurcatovium@piefed.social 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

WTF? Is this true? That's insane! My mid/east European village with 2,5k people (including children) has 4 polling locations so nobody can argue it's too far for them. It's also possible to register yourself beforehand and than you can vote wherever you want (either inside the country or at embassy abroad).

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 33 points 20 hours ago

America is a hovel where there are few rights for workers. They literally can’t afford to take time off work to vote, and Republicans make it as hard as possible for them to vote in person, by removing transport options, and closing polls at ridiculously early times. Most Republican controlled states close polls at 7pm.

[–] amio@lemmy.world 11 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Access to voting is the foundation of democracy. Sane systems try to minimize any "pressure" to not vote, for any reason, because any such pressure is very likely to hit some demographics harder than others. The Republicans in particular rather blatantly rely on weaponizing this as a way of subverting democratic principles, by making it disproportionately hard to vote if you're working, or poor, or young, or a minority of pretty much any kind.

Therefore, anything that increases access to voting, and levels the playing field, is worse for the GOP than being able to keep up the status quo of voter suppression. Hence their extremely shrill opposition to mail, and also the ("hilarious") claims of "fraud" - painting the picture of your democracy being subverted is a handy talking point while you're busy subverting your democracy.

So the boring answer is that your question is sort of back-to-front: it's not that the mail ballots are skewed as such, it's that access to in-person voting is. Mail ballots favor the Democrats because it is their voter base that's (in this case, anyway) being suppressed.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 19 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Until very recently, Republicans had an edge in mail-in voting, however after Trump started deriding it, a not small number of Republican voters stopped using it.

Also skewing the numbers is that Democratic-led states largely allow everyone to vote by mail if they'd like, whereas Republican-led states strictly limit mail-in voting to people who meet certain criteria. This means that Democrats are overrepresented when you look at a national count. Oregon and Washington don't even have in-person voting, only vote by mail. Republican-led states limiting mail-in voting predates Trump though, because they try to limit anything they can related to voting.

[–] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 10 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Good point. This was part of Trump's plan in 2020. He told his followers to vote in person, then declared victory on election night before any mail ballots could be realistically counted. Playing into the idea that it was "stolen" because "he was ahead on election night." Which only happened because he specifically told all his followers NOT to vote by mail.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 11 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Afaik mail-in ballots were not the deciding factor in the 2020 election, which Trump lost handily. He was never ahead on election night, though that wouldn't stop him from claiming it

[–] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

He was briefly "ahead" in very early vote totals, when in person voting was mostly counted and mail in ballots were mostly uncounted. I remember when Trump declared victory it was not yet midnight pacific time on election night.

https://www.wral.com/story/fact-check-trump-falsely-and-prematurely-claims-2020-presidential-victory/19370968/

It was kinda a key thing in the 2020 election. The whole "stop the count" thing. They wanted to stop counting while Trump was still technically ahead in vote totals. He specifically told his followers to vote in person "to make sure their votes counted." Another key detail is that some Republican states had rules against counting mail ballots before midnight, so they were excluded from the total when he declared victory.

[–] Infrapink@thebrainbin.org 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, Trump is just a blowhard who can't accept losing. (He's also a liar, but I'm not sure he doesn't genuinely believe the election was rigged).

[–] Nemo@midwest.social 8 points 17 hours ago

Postal voting is primarily employed by people who work full-time, have access to regular mail service, are younger, and have some amount of trust in government services.

Contrast with Republican mainstays: the well-to-do, rural areas, the elderly, and those who distrust the government.

Also it's self-reinforcing: the more Republican pundits link postal voting and fraud in their audience's minds, the less likely their voters are to use it, increasing the chance that depressing it will primarily harm opposition voters.

[–] black_flag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 20 hours ago

In addition to the reasons given by others, it's because Republicans are eugenicists who think people should have been and should continue to be left to die if they get sick. Mail-in voting was expanded during covid to make it more accessible, and they (in media) seized on the opportunity to drive a wedge between people and create doubt in the democratic system. If your goal is authoritarianism, any small step to reduce faith in electoral systems is a win because it gives you an excuse to take control outside of elections.

[–] BigTrout75@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

I've wondered this too. My only guess is if you mess with US Mail there are strict federal laws that protect it. Plus it gives time to read, research and discuss what you're voting for. LOL, oh and my wife tells me who to vote for.

Can't speak for the ballot boxes but there always seems to be some stories about missing ballots. Or people waiting out side for hours in November.