HOA are bullshit, but the folks who actually use em to cause problems for their neighbors are a different kind of scum.
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On the other hand, the guy upstairs me hasn't fixed their seepage problems in years and my ceiling is watering. Maybe no HOA here.
Can never catch a break, can we?
magnificent and beautiful. it causes no physical harm yet þe fear is unmistakable
I'm a little confused how OOP is moving the welcome mat without triggering the camera. Though I'm sure this story is $100% real.
OOP edited it to clarify
EDIT: since people keep asking about the ring camera - the welcome mat is by his side door. camera points at the driveway. but i'm not taking chances so i bought the same ring camera model and spent a month testing angles in my own house. there's a 2 foot blind spot if you approach from the left hedge. 10 second delay before recording starts. i can be in and out in 8 ;)
Let's hope his neighbour is not on Reddit.
Not the $ sign too
Would that be 100 dollars percent or 100 percent dollars?
That would be, "100% and I can bet $100 on it.".
Bruh this is literally Stasi shit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zersetzung
OOP should join the FSB lmfao
Anybody have any neighbor revenge tips? As in my neighbor is a fucking psycho who tried to break into my house, but is also rich, so he paid a lawyer and got a hand slap?
Obligatory, ACAB and fuck America. Can’t wait to take a position overseas again.
Seems like it should be possible to introduce crab grass to his lawn...
Depends how much revenge you need. There is a sliding scale between pooping on his doormat to planting creeping bamboo to planting an IED.
Somewhere between the bamboo and IED
if he has a dog, you could put broken glass into dog food and feed it to the dog.
While I hate dogs, I can't really condone this.
I'm just brainstorming here.
I get that.
Just wasn't very tasty.
I find a well aimed missile tends to do the trick

Can someone explain why there are so many stories of bad HOAs in America? Don't everyone in the HOA get to vote on who will be on the board and what rules there should be? Why do many of them seem to have strange and petty rules? What makes them able to issue fines for so small infractions? Where does the fine money go? Who sets up the HOA in the first place and what is the motivation to do so?
We got plenty of similar associations where I live (both for apartments and houses, though not so often for fully detached homes) and they usually work great. Basically you pay a monthly fee to your HOA that the board use to keep the plumbing and outside areas maintained, pay for tv/internet for everyone at a much reduced cost or maintain other common areas like laundry rooms, guest apartment, parking garage, workshop etc. There are of course some restrictions too you need to follow, but those are usually minor and common sense anyways (like you shouldn't play very loud music too late in an apartment in the middle of the week) and that you don't get to do whatever you want to the outside of your place.
(Another common rule is that you need HOA approval to sublet your apartment. This can be occasionally annoying to deal with, but is good because it prevents people from buying up apartments just to rent them out. And most of the time the HOA will approve you if you're just moving away for a year or similar.)
Don’t everyone in the HOA get to vote on who will be on the board and what rules there should be? Why do many of them seem to have strange and petty rules?
Why should it be different from any other election?
That was the original intent, yes. Then they were tainted by greed and now most of them are in place before anyone lives in the neighborhood, so owners have no choice if they want to live there. Many are owned and operated by private companies that profit off petty fines like this. I once got a letter threatening a fine because I parked my car in my driveway and it had expired tabs. This was during early covid when the DMV was slower than usual. I almost lost my shit.
Check out this episode of Last week tonight if you wanna get more upset.
That's not the original intent. In the US, HOAs were mostly created after the end of segregation to keep black people out of white neighborhoods, an origin story that puts into context the modern of pettiness and desire to control others we see in stories like this.
In the early postwar period after World War II, many [HOAs] were defined to exclude African Americans and, in some cases, Jews, with Asians also excluded on the West Coast.
A racial covenant in a Seattle, Washington, neighborhood stated, "No part of said property hereby conveyed shall ever be used or occupied by any Hebrew or by any person of the Ethiopian, Malay or any Asiatic race."
When these were found unconstitutional in 1948, they became private contacts until those became illegal in 1968, but because HOAs had to approve new members/buyers, the rules stayed in effect until the majority of a community decided to stop being racist. On top of that, in 1963 the Federal Housing Administration said they would only insure mortgages on homes with an HOA which is really what created suburban sprawl and the ghettoization of the American inner cities.
If you look at the history of HOAs it's really a long and protracted fight on all levels by racists and bigots against the Civil Rights movement.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeowner_association
TL;DR: Although conceptually HOAs are a good idea, even trending towards communalism, actually existing HOAs are, with a few exceptions, downright regressive, often criminally so.
These are creative writing exercises on reddit. It's gotten a million times worse since LLMs.
A LLM that does not understand that you can’t avoid being seen by a ring camera by ‘approaching from a blind spot. ‘
I mean its perfectly conceivable for any camera to have a blind spot. The lens can only see so much. Heck given its a Ring camera its almost certainly on a wireless connection so its trivial to briefly disrupt the connection if you're okay with violating FCC regulations
A camera was put up explicitly for the purpose of seeing who is moving the bins, and the guy can’t see who is moving the bins, and the guy never thinks to reposition his camera?
No, that’s AI slop.
I don't believe it... Moving a welcome mat when the guy has a camera doorbell? C'mon...

Even the trash cans. Just...put the trash cans in actual view of the camera? How would you buy a camera just to watch your trash cans and then not actually watch the trash cans with it?
Not HOA but similar. I was living in a different city during covid. The city closed the outdoor parks in the poor and working class neighborhoods, the rich folk parks remained open.
They started to wrap the swings at the park around the top bar. I'd unwrap them each day and that went on for about two weeks. Then they went to zip tying the swings together so they couldn't be used. So I would cut the zip ties each day. This went on for another few weeks. Then they brought a sign post and a sign saying the park was closed and using the swings was prohibited. I dug the sign post out and threw it in the woods. Then they chained the swings together with a pad lock so I went to harbor freight and bought very heavy duty bolt cutters and lopped the chain off. That daily chain lopping lasted a week or two then they just took the swings away. I debated about buying swings and attaching them but figured the gambit went on as long as it should have and called it. I had fun.
Meanwhile the whole time the kids in the rich neighborhoods could swing to their daily content.
I love it. Perhaps it would have been more effective to just do whatever they did to the swings at the other parks? Either way it's good stuff
Imagine being so fucking basic you care about trash cans being visible from the street.
Its not about the trash cans, its about making sure your neighbours know YOU are calling the shots. If it wasnt the trashcan it would have been the grass a half-inch too high, or the paint on the door chipped slightly, or gravel leaving the premises, or dirty windows.
Blind spot so big the cans are there too which defeats the purpose of the camera. Got it.
The term Gaslighting gets thrown around a lot, but if this story were actually real it would be the perfect modern day example of it.