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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/43965516

It is worth noting that both the hardware and software of Fairphone is heavily dependent on a Chinese company T2Mobile.

For those looking to avoid both US and Chinese companies, then the Jolla phone is the way to go.

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[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is why new laws are being passed to verify ID on a hardware level. They know the enshittification has progressed to the point that people are starting to break away. They want to put a halt to that by any means necessary.

[–] maplesaga@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'd be curious, it seems obvious the world is coordinating it in some way.

[–] rezifon@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I don't think it requires or implies coordination. What looks like coordination might simply be an overall increase in authoritarian governments globally which all share many of the same incentives to limit privacy and increase population tracking.

[–] calmluck9349@infosec.pub 8 points 2 days ago (4 children)

They should partner use grapheneos and sell in USA.

[–] ragas@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Wasn't the issue here that they would have liked to partner with GrapheneOS, but GrapheneOS didn't want to, because of some security requirements that they had?

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

GrapheneOS had security requirements and they offered to help Fairphone implement them, but Fairphone refused. Apparently they are not interested in their users security and privacy. So I won't be touching Fairphones with a 10ft stick.

Motorola was interested and should be launching a phone with GrapheneOS preinstalled at the end of 2026 or in 2027.

[–] BigJohnnyHines@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Is there a source available for that?

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I got a Google pixel 10 just so I can have GrapheneOS as soon as possible. I am glad that Google's plans to lock down Android are blowing up in their faces.

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[–] hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Personally, I'd love a phone I can experiment with pure Linux OSs or Sailfish on.

[–] calmluck9349@infosec.pub 1 points 9 hours ago

A secure Linux phone would be the ultimate goal I think.

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

I just bought a FP6 with /e/os installed by Murena in the US and it's been great so far except that RCS isn't supported by /e/os so group texts don't work. Which is honestly a huge issue that is causing enough social friction that I'll probably revert to an iPhone soon.

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[–] Omnipitaph@reddthat.com 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Have any of you checked out the reviews on their site? The one's in Dutch?

Hilarious. Almost none of the reviews are about the phone itself, but the promotions surrounding it, whether its available in certain stores, and my favorite, the font on the case.

I guess the phone is so awesome they have to think of other stuff to complain about. I just want to know if the phone is good!

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago

Slab phone is solved tech already and this is the time where we can vote for more ethical solutions without really losing anything. The newest fairphone is basically just a standard android flagship.

[–] aproposnix@scribe.disroot.org 89 points 4 days ago (17 children)

I got my gen 6 a few days ago with /e/os installed. I definitely don't regret it.

[–] blinfabian@feddit.nl 21 points 4 days ago (10 children)

same, but installing a different launcher is sadly mandatory as the default is ass

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[–] itistime@infosec.pub 39 points 3 days ago (9 children)

Avoiding Chinese companies is a factor for me, BUT if the choice is between a Chinese company that wouldn’t comply with a five-eyes data request vs one that would, then I would definitely prefer my data be stolen by a foreign country that doesn’t see me as a sovereign risk

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 20 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Its getting kind of silly to be afraid of China when big tech is American.... There really isnt any logical reason at this point. Just emotional, because people are afraid of China.

The entire west is getting absolutely wrecked by American big tech so its funny to read those articles about how scary China is. I guess we prefer the devil we know, but I dont think China has anything even remotely as capable as American spy agencies and big tech.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 4 points 2 days ago

You should avoid both. I avoid the us tech because its on a trajectory towards what china currently implements. China has a ton of offensive security capability and they use it constantly.

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[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 12 points 3 days ago

We have come a long way, to be finally more concerned about our government spying on us than about a foreign nation.

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[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They have a "fair labor" agreement with China so that it is as ethically sourced as possible. People can't just get anything somewhere else. They are at least trying.

[–] tb_@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

They also set up an initiative around the fair extraction of cobalt.

For the specs alone it is an expensive phone, but well worth it to me.
I do somewhat miss the HD haptics from my previous Samsung.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is exactly what we need: profound economic warfare, and lawfare against the sources exploiting us. We need to organize and support the groups that fight the forces leading to us getting exploited.

Our problems are fundamentally human sourced, and we need to take action to stop being vulnerable to exploitation and coercion.

All other problems CAN be resolved with time and work.

[–] oftenawake@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Some of those who work forces, Are the same who close sources....

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[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I have had this for 4 months and love it. Previously had Samsung 25 Ultra. Hated it.

Anyone know if the coming Android restrictions will impact support?

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