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[–] puddingchewer@lemmy.zip 101 points 6 days ago (2 children)

This is exactly what i just did. No regrets. Foss everything, no mainstream social media. I love it

[–] BladeFederation@piefed.social 108 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (12 children)

The Fediverse is not perfect, but it actually blew my mind a bit how much it lowered my blood pressure to not see the constant ragebait, and the calm of not being exposed and monitored at all times. I still have Snapchat just for one person, and WhatsApp which is Meta but still E2EE. Other than that, I'm all in on FOSS privacy approved apps and man does it feel great.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 42 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Here it's us, real people rage-baiting you on employer time!

[–] BladeFederation@piefed.social 19 points 6 days ago

Ah yes, organic rage bait instead of Ai swirls fancy wine

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[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 27 points 6 days ago (3 children)

It really goes to show no little of the abuse we suffer is inherently the Internet's fault. Lemmy feels like the reddit I knew and loved of 15 years ago. Sure there's some assholes I argue with but that's the normal amount of shittieness not the turbocorpo abuse

[–] BladeFederation@piefed.social 11 points 6 days ago (2 children)

A lot of it is hitting critical mass too. Reddit used to be tech enthusiasts and stem students the same way Fediverse is currently. Now any town idiot yahoo from the sticks will angrily yell at you on Reddit for no reason.

But yeah the algorithm is a lot stronger than it would seem.

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[–] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 26 points 6 days ago (9 children)

I made the switch to Linux and Lemmy right around the same time. Once I was free of it all it was like relaxing a muscle I didn't know had been tense for decades. Android is next... Just as soon as I figure out jellyfin....

[–] GFGJewbacca@midwest.social 13 points 6 days ago (12 children)

Jellyfin is the shit. Lemme know if you have questions.

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[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 15 points 6 days ago (16 children)

WhatsApp which is Meta but still E2EE

As far as you are told. There is no verification that is true.

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[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 14 points 6 days ago

I just did this too, except I bought a refurbished Pixel, so I paid someone else $100 for Google to fuck off lol.

[–] observes_depths@aussie.zone 36 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Buying new is still screwing yourself over. Buy second hand and take advantage of all the fools thinking they have to upgrade every year.

[–] BladeFederation@piefed.social 7 points 5 days ago

But then I wouldn't have been able to make this meme.

[–] vathecka@lemmy.radio 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Most used pixels are oem locked verizon ones. They say unlocked, but they only mean carrier unlocked.

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[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 74 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Not much longer im sure. I have no reason to believe that they will continue making it possible to un/relock the bootloader considering their push for google certified only android.

[–] dlsloop@lemmy.zip 31 points 6 days ago (4 children)

This is what I'm afraid of too. I could see apps like fdroid and the ability to install custom roms being taken away within the next year or two. I hope I'm wrong but I don't have a good feeling. I need Linux phones to be a thing now more than ever.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I need Linux phones to be a thing now more than ever.

This doesn't happen in a vacuum. If you're not already, find a project and contribute towards it some way.

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[–] ilsimoneviaggiatore@feddit.it 23 points 5 days ago

Maybe, you could buy a Motorola as well in the near future.

https://motorolanews.com/motorola-three-new-b2b-solutions-at-mwc-2026/

[–] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 34 points 6 days ago (2 children)

And the only price, you'll need to see the Google logo flash brightly every time you reboot.

[–] Diurnambule@jlai.lu 20 points 5 days ago

I hâte this reminder too. But the constant playsyore is missing permissions is a reward. Yes stay here little software keep complaining, your owner can go fuck them self.

[–] BladeFederation@piefed.social 15 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Gives me a jumpscare when I apply updates, not gonna lie

[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 16 points 5 days ago (4 children)

The only reason I don't use GrapheneOS is because of thte tight coupling they have with Google's hardware.

[–] BladeFederation@piefed.social 16 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

It's not that they have a deal with Google, it's that Google's hardware security is best bar none except maybe iPhone. And Graphene is the best way to degoogle, as counter intuitive as it may seem. They are working with other manufacturers to get these security requirements for new phones so Graphene can be put on them.

[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hardware security is largely irrelevant. It makes sense for some use cases, mine everyday use is not one of them. There are much more important threat vectors, such as all the acounts of the cloud services I use.

[–] BladeFederation@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wouldn't say it is irrelevant when there is a worldwide push towards authoritarianism and countless examples of unreasonable search and seizure.

Plus, everyone has their own threat model. It's almost a meme in the privacy community, but there's a reason threat modeling and prioritization is step #1. It may not be a big concern to you (in your opinion), but imagine if it didn't exist for someone who needs it.

I wouldn’t say it is irrelevant when there is a worldwide push towards authoritarianism and countless examples of unreasonable search and seizure.

Hardware security is irrelevant for that. As it is irrelevant for most other things.

Authoritarian governments are not going to bother with hacking you. They will just force you to unlock your devices or go to jail for obstruction of justice.

Real security starts with de-Googling, de-Facebooking,... etc

[–] TheLastOfHisName@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] dx1@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They've got SD cards and headphone jacks too.

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[–] entwine@programming.dev 7 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Why, because you can't afford it (reasonable), because you think it helps Google (unreasonable), because you think it's a privacy risk (unreasonable), or because it feels icky (unreasonable)?

The profits from Pixel hardware sales are a drop in the bucket for Google. I'm pretty sure the only reason it exists is so they can have insight and control over the hardware ecosystem, as without it they'd be driven by whatever Samsung wants to do.

The walled Android ecosystem is where they make the bulk of their money, and Graphene actively pulls people away from that and to something objectively better. Graphene is fully de-Googled and safe from their spyware, and exists outside of their business model. Using and promoting Graphene actively hurts Google, even if you have them $1k for a phone.

Also, there are plenty of cheap second hand pixels on ebay, and Google doesn't see a penny from those sales. Recycling is good for the planet anyways.

Also, there are plenty of cheap second hand pixels on ebay, and Google doesn’t see a penny from those sales. Recycling is good for the planet anyways.

This is where I disagree. Buying second hand google phones supports the second hand value of these phones, which in turn indirectly benefits Google because people are more likely to buy them.

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[–] Angelus7f@beehaw.org 16 points 5 days ago

I'm glad that GrapheneOS exist, and it's sad that they are the exception and not the rule.

I think projects like CalyxOS and LineageOS should adopt some feature from GrapheneOS like contact/storage scopes, sandboxed Google Play Services, Network and Sensor toggles.

At the same time, I think GrapheneOS needs to reevaluate their presence in social media.

[–] Hiro8811@lemmy.world 24 points 6 days ago (17 children)

From google? I got mine from second hand market

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Has Hunter S Thompson always been in Trailer Park Boys?

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Lahey and Hunter S Thompson don't seem all that different.

[–] Soapbox@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The alternate reality where he ended up being a cop instead of a journalist.

[–] rentasintorn@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 4 days ago

He ran for sheriff at one point

[–] 18107@aussie.zone 7 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I really wanted GrapheneOS, but ended up with /e/OS on a fairphone because I refuse to give Google any more money.

After replacing the default launcher with Lawnchair, I'm pretty happy with it. The physical switch (remapped to control the torch) is a nice touch.

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[–] 64bithero@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago (14 children)

I’m about to do the same … question is without the google services is it worth a pro over even an a ?

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 6 days ago (3 children)

To me it wasn't. I don't think The non-a Pixels can really justify their price based on the hardware itself.

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[–] arin@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago (2 children)
[–] BladeFederation@piefed.social 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Soon, but not yet! I needed to upgrade, can't wait until 2027 or whenever. But hoping it'll be one of their flagships, the new Razr is pretty dope specs wise.

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[–] cdzero@lemmy.ml 10 points 5 days ago (5 children)

I couldn't do it myself. Ended up going Fairphone and Calyx instead. Just patiently waiting for Calyx to start releasing again.

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[–] raker@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Worth it. Try any Samsung phone with Google's shit and Samsung's shit on top: I swear you these one are practically unusable, like you carrying an bloated mini-ad-computer with you. A implanted bug in your teeth or ass would hurt probably less then this. Before I use any of those, I rather use a "dumb" phone again.

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[–] durably465@lemmy.ml 11 points 5 days ago

This is the way

[–] nfreak@lemmy.ml 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's why I made sure to get my newest phone used, but that comes with the risk of getting a Verizon model (in the US) which can't be bootloader unlocked. Had to return the first one I got off eBay for that reason, and the second one I made sure to ask the seller where they initially got it from.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

It's wild to me that that's legal here. Devices should have to be carrier agnostic.

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[–] dudesss@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I still have my CAD $210 Google credit from Google because they throtted my Pixel, and I might let it expire because I want a Fairphone instead.

[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 14 points 6 days ago

Lmao this is perfect

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