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[–] real_squids@sopuli.xyz 81 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Probably helps that they got one of those worlds from another company

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 66 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And when they let yet another company do a game in the series as a one-off, it became widely regarded as the best title in the series post Bethesda acquisition.

[–] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] U7826391786239@piefed.zip 52 points 4 days ago

fallout new vegas

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

One of their games was made by another company entirely but now they're making other worlds outside them

[–] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Have you played many of their original settings? I thought they'd be different. They're all passingly interesting but haven't really stuck in my head quite the same way

[–] real_squids@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 days ago

It's kind of a ship of Theseus situation, the writing from early TES games (and the writers too I'm assuming) isn't the same as later ones. Making a more approachable game comes with sacrifices too.

[–] Ging@anarchist.nexus 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] mult@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The first Fallout game was made by Interplay and second one by Black Isle, Interplay's in-house dev studio.

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

They also looked a wee bit different from Bethesda's entries.

The fact that ‘Fallout’ 3/4 are in any way good after having been acquired by a different company and made in a different paradigm is a damn unicorn in the gaming world.

[–] Broadfern@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago
[–] MutantTailThing@lemmy.world 67 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Let’s rely on the modding community to fix our broken mess that’s riddled with game breaking bugs then release a patch 10 years later that breaks all mods.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

We can also look at this from the other direction. The fact that they provided the tools to all of us, and let Fallout London be made and distributed is huge. You may not be grateful for that, but I am.

Has any other company done such a thing on that level? I really don't know.

[–] Butterpaderp@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Jokes on you, starfield has paid mods. Now they can't even get that right.

[–] XaetaCore@lemmy.neondystopia.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

at’s riddled with game breaking bugs then release a patc And refuse to move away from their ancient engine 💀

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is why I was so mad about Starfield, on its own merits it's a perfectly mediocre game that I nearly enjoyed for about 15-20 hours, but the instant I booted it up I realized it was still on the same mf engine they used for Fallout 4. Whole game plays like a high quality F4 mod. I was mad as hell, that was the one thing I was actually somewhat excited for about Starfield was that the space setting and new IP might actually give them the opportunity to cook up a new game engine.

At this point I'm expecting to see ES6 come out on yet another further Frankensteined iteration of this crusty bitch and I'm just going to laugh about it. I've lost hope that it'll get better and there's a slim chance I might get pleasantly surprised.

The "infinite" replay ability was cheap to, i have 300h in it but after the sixt playthrough the gimick was over, The whole main story is just an excuse to keep you playing

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I mean, they stopped having good stories and worlds 10 years ago.

[–] Greenbeard@lemmy.zip 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Weird how that only includes Fallout 76 and Starfield

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I forgot how old I am / what year it is.

So yeah, as VerilyFemme says, its actually worse.

Fallout 4's story is awful.

The dialogue system, with basically 4 ways to say the same thing, with different emotional states?

Terrible.

You wanna do something like that?

Take notes from Deus Ex. Give actual meaningfully different choices and dialog, that lets you actually reflect yourself, your decisions, your pov, or what your idea of the character is... you know, roleplaying.

The world is basically also not great... a few kind of neat world/lore ideas, a lot that suck and/or contradict previous canon in ways that are just stupid, tropey, or in some cases break significant chunks of the universe.

I honestly never even cared for Skyrim, I was hoping it would be more like Morrowind, instead it was even less like Morrowind than Oblivion, barely played it.

Fallout 3?

Well, story was kind of notorious for having to retcon itself in order to make post-endgame anything even possible, and of course your supermutant companion who could easily tank the radiation damage just won't let you sever the thread of destiny or whatever.

It had some good spots, but also a fair deal of just not well thought out things: How in the hell does Lamplight cave just have an ongoing society of only children, thats been going on that way for nearly 200 years?

[–] VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 3 days ago

good stories: 20 years past

good worlds: 18 years past

just imo

[–] nul9o9@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 4 days ago

Stories is debatable now.

[–] tgirlschierke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 3 days ago

"best stories"

posted a full decade after fallout 4

[–] U7826391786239@piefed.zip 30 points 4 days ago (13 children)

remember when everyone was excited about 76 LOL

also diablo 4 LOL

also starfield LOL

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 13 points 4 days ago (8 children)

Well not too much for Starfield. Back when they announced it they were comments about how their engine isn't good enough to pull off the things they were promising. It's why I didn't pre-order it.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago

Starfield is the Song that Never Ends from Barney.

Monotonous, boring, annoying, loops back into itself, overstays its welcome, may potentially drive you insane with too much consistent exposure.

[–] U7826391786239@piefed.zip 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

i expected bethesda graphics and gameplay, which were always meh after skyrim

what i didn't expect was the pointless boring in fact fucking tedious everything else involved in playing a video game-- wtf is this fetch quest about talking trees? go talk to this guy, and then go talk to that guy, and then and then and then-- what a fucking let-down.

don't worry i learned my lesson. i'll never buy another bethesda title unless a year has passed and it still has a minimum 'very positive' rating. maybe not even then. fuck bethesda

[–] BurntWits@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

i'll never buy another bethesda title unless a year has passed

You may like !patientgamers@sh.itjust.works

[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

I got it as soon as I got a GPU that could comfortably run it... because it was bundled with said GPU. I did activate the key but never bothered to actually install it. Maybe later in case the handful of modders actually make something cool in there.

I was kinda interested before launch, hoping that this would be the game to finally force them to meaningfully overhaul the engine they've been carrying around since Morrowind (with some bugs dating back to then). Of course it wasn't and of course they didn't.

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[–] Damarus@feddit.org 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] U7826391786239@piefed.zip 13 points 4 days ago

true, and fuck blizzard too

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 days ago

I remember being excited for Diablo 3 💀

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

They weren't excited for Diablo 4 for the world and story, though.

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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago

i wish there was a company that made dogshit games ~~with some of the best worlds and stories ever~~

[–] davidgro@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The monkey's paw makes a shrug motion.

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 6 points 4 days ago

That monkey's paw crossed its fingers, they barely make games anymore.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

I'm picturing something like Thing.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I mean, I guess this is true if you've never read a book before...

[–] The_Surviv0r@sh.itjust.works 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah they should have read great hits like The Lusty Argonian Maid!

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago

It was always a pleasure to see that in Oblivion and Skyrim. Is that the only book in the series where you've met the writer in one of the games?

[–] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I tried reading a book once, but the controls were too fiddly and my progress through the main quest was too slow.

[–] Bonsoir@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 days ago (2 children)

There was no repeatable sidequests too. Where's the replayability?

[–] Restaldt@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And thus choose your own adventure books are reborn

[–] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Also fiddly controls.

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[–] VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 4 days ago

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