I'm guessing to receive an exemption they just need to pay a relatively cheap bribe
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So the spyware will be built into American-made routers. Got it.
So ship all the parts here and assemble them here... foreign companies have been doing this for decades.
I'm sure some moron thinks this will "create jobs". I'll let you guess who the moron is.
This is about surveillance, not jobs.
Just to remind you as the surveillance state crawls further up between your kidneys that Epstein used a free gmail account hosted on US servers and nobody did dick about him.
*Unless you pay tribute to the authoritarian government.
They're gonna tell you this is the only way to be sure that routers don't contain a backdoor. They're gonna tell themselves this is the only way to be sure that routers do contain a backdoor.
It can be both.
Does anyone have any suggestions on a router I should buy before this comes into effect? Would prefer one that is open source or can run an open OS.
Can a raspberry pi be used to make a router?
A pi can definitely be used, but you may get much better performance for a similar price getting a refurbished pc, adding a second nic, and installing something like opnsense.
Look into banana pi r3 or r4. Both should be on openwrt stable now.
Interesting addition to the "free market" system we all just love so, so much.
Its obvious its for spying. Until there is a telescope stuck up every non rich citizens ass the US government will not give up.
People should rewatch that interview with the creator of Lavabit and how the feds forced him into a shutdown because he wouldn't play their spy games.
He is still not allowed to talk about all the details of it either. "What about my first amendment rights" he said in the interview.
You know, just things in the land of the free™
Do you have a link to it? I don’t think I’ve ever seen it, so idk what to look for.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=spW0q-g2BxU&pp=ygUZTGF2YWJpdCBmb3VuZGVyIGludGVydmlldw%3D%3D
I'm sorry its a YouTube link I would link invidious or something similar but man I can't ever seem to get the links to those to reliably work consistently.
No worries, those services are pretty hit or miss for me as well.
Thanks for the link, I’ll watch this later today :)
Oh no. What will we do.
Oh yeah. just build one in a white box.
Painting a target on himself
Put it before the white box, then wireguard or ygg out to a vps. Fuck 'em.
I did this 20 years ago, I can do it again...
does this support wireless, aka Wi-Fi? I can't tell from a ~1 minute skim
Yes. Linux can (usually though not always) drive a wifi card as an access point.
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This will benefit a few specific big brands that have the lawyers to figure out the spaghetti mess of free trade agreements and origin rules.
Obvious move toward even more of a surveillance state. My current router is not US made and my next one definitely won't be. Buying American made is buying a little piece of fascism.
Very little is American made.
I have some insight for the average joe.
When you buy an American made product its a sham 99% of the time.
I used to run an injection molding machine for a job. And made parts for a well known brand.
The parts where made from LG plastics from china, on a Japanese injection molding machine ran by me. That got paid $16.40 an hour, with no benefits.
The parts said "made in America" on the mold.
Utter sham, im all for american jobs. But its bullshit to say its made in america. When all the parts that make it are not American.
There should be some legal president that if it says "made in america" it must be 98% american resources.
Not some dog eggs, of well i bought some plastic from china and the machine from japan. And had the american press the button to make the part. Therefore its an american made product.
Now im not saying all company's are like that but majority of them are.
We get parts from Japan, unassembled. They already have made in america stamped into the side. They get put together by a couple robots and sent out the door with a huge markup for the locally manufactured parts. Local heroes keeping the community employed since 1986!
Same goes for EV's, mobile phones etc. The US is one of the most limited countries in the world with regards to choice.
So much freedom
Exemptions will be sold by Trump to major manufacturers outside of the US. They will also come with mandatory back doors.
Welp, time to stock up on some older routers or make my own. This country is looking more Orwellian by the day.
curious (well not really) that it is only consumer grade. nothing about business grade, of even a deliniation as to where "pro-sumer" falls. if this is a big brother situation then the consumer only thing makes perfect sense. it also drives users back to isp supplied hardware which means more rental fees, so more money CEOs.
Won't be surprised if the ISP provided hardware is going to be the only allowed stuff. For you and me, not for the gov't or companies though. They specifically only mentioned "consumer grade" and also specifically state that products sold to or used by the federal gov't are not restricted at all. Seems like that carve-out is backwards if these things are such big "security risks"...
OH BOY! State sanctioned surveillance because backdoors are necessary.
When filing for an exemption, the company needs to submit a specific plan for how they're going to move manufacturing to the US 💀
Make up shit and backtrack once trump is out of office, just like they did during the first administration.
No way tech companies won't manipulate this to their benefit right? Gonna be having routers shipped in decoy packages. I'm not buying backdoor infested mess they're gonna peddle at an unreasonable price cause there can be no outside competition.
I'm in Ohio. I wonder how hard it'd be to drive to Canada, pick up a router, and drive back?
Or hell......maybe just drive to Canada. I'm sure I can find a job and a place to live, right? Just go to a Tim Hortons and say "Hey, I'm gonna work hete now, because fuck America!" and Canadians are like, legally obligated to be nice. I'm sure it'll all work out, as long as I share some donuts.
The hardest part will be getting used to pink money.
I mean, seriously Canada? You a big fan of monopoly money?
I’m in Ohio. I wonder how hard it’d be to drive to Canada, pick up a router, and drive back?
You jest, but I suspect this is going to be a Thing. I mean, people were willing to do it for eggs (and getting caught at the border), and a router's a rather larger purchase.
what if th government prohibits your ISP from initilizing your routers MAC address because its not one on an approved list?
So the FCC won't let me be, or let me be me, so let me see...they try to shut down the internet on my pc, but it would be so empty without me!
Made me chuckle in these dark times. Cheers!
Routers are not modems.
Put your router behind the company issued modem and then VPN out.
Every broadband connection I've had looks at the mac address of whatever is behind the modem, the modem essentially passes it through.
No it doesn’t. Go learn about networking, the OSI model, and ARP tables if you believe that.
Then make it lie. Spoofing is a thing that sometimes works!
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This will not stand. Remember, TACO.
as far as I know, a similar ban on new models of drones still stands after several months.
So just buy in a commerce site in Europe and import it
Brendan Carr is such a dummy!
I wonder if this has anything to do with them clawing back WiFi7 spectrum for resale.
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