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Edit: As @bdonvr@thelemmy.club points out below

  1. This is just a mascot and is not a new logo
  2. The blog referencing Mozilla’s statement on the mascots gender says, (he/she/they/them/it), use whatever pronoun you prefer.
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[–] realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip 207 points 1 month ago (22 children)

The gender orientation of the firefox logo is something I haven't thought about ever.

What's the point of this?

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 76 points 1 month ago (6 children)

The point is that you've fallen for some idiots on X making up culture war bullshit.

Kit's supposed pronouns aren't mentioned by Mozilla anywhere in any Mozilla announcements.

One news site attributes this quote to Mozilla

Kit (he/she/they/them/it) is the user’s constant companion. Wherever they choose to roam, Kit will accompany and guide them with clever, playful encouragement and support — giving the user the confidence to run free.

That's the one and only place that even remotely mentions it as far as I can tell. And it's not even a statement that it's NB or they/them... More like it's a fictional mascot call it what you want.

[–] AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Mozilla uses "they're" to refer to Kit, but other than that there's no explicit statement at all.

Kit is a companion, not a commentator. They’re not here to deliver punchlines. Kit shows up as a small signal that Firefox is working for you, then steps back so you can keep moving.

[–] JayGray91@piefed.social 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I used "they" etc. when I don't know the gender of the person I'm talking about. I feel like that's the safest assumption.

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[–] wrinkle2409@lemmy.cafe 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

True, it was just "a fox" for me so far. I didn't really care about the gender of a drawing. I guess it is a good awareness move though

[–] errer@lemmy.world 49 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Feels like a publicity stunt more than a genuine attempt to include non-binary people.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 month ago (4 children)

It isn't, though. They never said that the mascot was non-binary.

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[–] realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

To me, this feels more like a PR move than an awareness move. Kind of like: "We don't wanna do anything substantial so uuuuh let's just make our logo non-binary".

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago

It's a terrible PR move if you don't say anything about it. They didn't say "Hey, look! Our mascot is non-binary!" All they did was use they/them pronouns.

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[–] MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's a distraction from the real important issue, which is...

...what does the fox say? /j

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] MoffKalast@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Ring-di-ding-di-ding-di-ding?

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago

Well, if I was creating a mascot, and I didn't want to think about their gender orientation... they/them pronouns are what I would use. Mozilla actually didn't announce the mascot's gender. People just saw they/them pronouns and made the inference from there.

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[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 80 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

By the way this is NOT a new Firefox logo. It's just the fox mascot drawing that may be used in other parts of the UI like the welcome screen after a new install, or on social media.

The actual logo remains unchanged.

On top of that nowhere in the announcement are the supposed pronouns mentioned: https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/meet-kit/

Actually the whole thing may be bullshit. Literally the only Mozilla reference I can find to Kit's pronouns is a statement given to like one or two blogs, and it says that any pronoun is acceptable.

Kit (he/she/they/them/it) is the user’s constant companion. Wherever they choose to roam, Kit will accompany and guide them with clever, playful encouragement and support — giving the user the confidence to run free.

That's attributed to Mozilla here: https://www.neowin.net/news/firefox-has-killed-its-old-mascot-heres-what-the-new-cute-one-looks-like/

All other references seem to be chuds on X claiming that it's explicitly they/them and acting like Mozilla is making a big deal about that. As if it matters either way.

If you had some kind of reaction to this post you've fallen for culture war bullshit propaganda, congratulations.

[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Solid sleuthing there. Edited the post to include your context.

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[–] flamingos@feddit.uk 77 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Firefox is now exclusive to ternary computers.

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[–] Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip 52 points 1 month ago (5 children)

What if.... hear me out.... what if we remove the focus on gender altogether? What if we stop engendering things that don't have genders? Like logos... and behavioral attributes...

[–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Since Mozilla actually didn’t and the post is based on a lie, I’ll say congratulations, your reaction is almost certainly what they were hoping for

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[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 38 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Waterfox needs to catch up with a gender-fluid fox

[–] anugeshtu@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Wait, there is a Waterfox? Is there also an Earth and Air fox? Then we could have an AvatarFox!

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[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Isn't the old mascot/logo completely non-gendered already?

[–] markz@suppo.fi 8 points 1 month ago (4 children)

There was nothing like that with the old fox-that-is-on-fire, so I guess mozilla is making a statement by pointing it out.

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[–] normonator@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's stupid, it was genderless before until they brought it up.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago

Mozilla didn't bring it up. The story is made up by right-wing trolls.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 month ago (4 children)

The old one was also non-binary. Prove me wrong.

(Honestly, I just don't care. Load the web page and render some JavaScript already)

[–] Xatolos@reddthat.com 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just search for "Firefox Chan". And maybe keep on SafeSearch too...

[–] Cypher@aussie.zone 9 points 1 month ago

And maybe keep on SafeSearch too…

No, I don't think I will

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[–] artifex@piefed.social 21 points 1 month ago

Maybe it’s meant to run on the old Soviet Setun platform.

[–] kshade@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It's a fox. I like the fox.

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[–] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 20 points 1 month ago

Are telling me they fired the previous mascot to hire a gender minority? Smh

[–] markz@suppo.fi 19 points 1 month ago

I never knew or thought about the old one's gender.

[–] themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Has anyone even thought about the gender of the original?

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[–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (3 children)

mascots gender says

It's a fucking red panda.

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[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 month ago

It uses qubits sorry. Get a quantum computer loser

[–] hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Non-binary PC is just a quantum computer innit?

[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 26 points 1 month ago

No, ternary exists. We could have built computers with triodes.

[–] slothrop@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago

I feel that you're stringing us along with that theory.

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[–] heliotrope@retrofed.com 13 points 1 month ago

I have a friend IRL called Kit, who also happens to use they/them pronouns.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

At risk of being abrasive...

I see blue checkmarks, I downvote. Nothing personal. But I don't want to support that even indirectly.

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[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 10 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Because it was what before? Why do we care about the gender identity of the fox mascot of a web browser?

Don’t answer, please

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[–] tlekiteki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago

Distraction from being a shit corporation.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Don’t tell the furries

[–] TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Okay, I know that this is supposed to be a riff, but that non-binary line is fucking hilarious.

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