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"Still not over the American woman who was super surprised to see so many men walking around with strollers and generally looking after their children alone during her travels through the Nordic countries."

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[โ€“] koella@lemmy.zip 82 points 6 days ago (2 children)

A friend of a friend of mine visited Stockholm from the US. She loved it, but was really puzzled by "all the gay nannies" until she was told they were the fathers.

[โ€“] espentan@lemmy.world 56 points 6 days ago (12 children)

So what do American fathers do on mandatory parental leave, just sit at home?

Oh, wait, there is no mandatory parental leave for fathers in the US, is there?

[โ€“] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 23 points 6 days ago

Lol, federally we don't have paid parental leave for mothers either. If there are 50+ employees both parents can take up to 12 weeks unpaid, and states may force paid leave to be offered.

And yeah, I'm not a parent, but I've noticed that over the years there's been more and more of a move towards fathers taking part in the nurturing parenting (as opposed to mainly being involved via providing, instruction, and discipline)

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[โ€“] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 16 points 6 days ago

really puzzled by "all the gay nannies"

Damn, thatโ€™s some eastern europe type phrasing

[โ€“] Sideshow_B00b@lemmy.zip 52 points 6 days ago (6 children)

As a Finn I am deeply insulted by yet strongly approve of the knife thing.

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[โ€“] twinnie@feddit.uk 118 points 6 days ago (47 children)

Do American men not look after their kids?

[โ€“] ceenote@lemmy.world 124 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Depends where on the political spectrum they are.

[โ€“] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 86 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This is the real answer. The only men I know who act like it isnโ€™t part of their job to be a dad are also super โ€œChristianโ€ and conservative.

In one instance I know of the wife has a college degree but the husband doesnโ€™t. They are quite impoverished because he works and she doesnโ€™t because โ€œit isnโ€™t a womanโ€™s place to earn more than a manโ€. Iโ€™m not fucking kidding or editorializing.

[โ€“] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 27 points 6 days ago

"Yes, my self-image is worth $80,000 a year, why do you ask?"

[โ€“] GraniteM@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'll be honest, I've given real thought to the idea of trying to leverage toxic masculinity to get men to take on more domestic responsibilities.

"What kind of real man needs a woman to cook for him?!"

"Bro, are you telling me that a woman can change a diaper but you can't?!"

"Dude, if you can't braid your daughter's hair and get her to dance lessons on time, are you even a real man?!"

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[โ€“] fuzz00713@lemmy.world 79 points 6 days ago (6 children)

The number of fathers that gave me shit for taking care of my kids is rediculous. We had our kids 15 months apart and I would routinely have both of them in a public restroom for changing. The pure vitriol directed at me for doing the womens job was immense beyond measure.
On the flip side, when I would take them to the park to play, I would be acosted by nearly every mother there. There were no fathers, just mothers that would have to comment that it was great to see a father participate. I also got a lot of phone numbers that I got very embarrased about and my wife found hilarious.

TLDR:. Most american fathers do not put in much effort unless its sports related.

[โ€“] CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world 30 points 6 days ago (2 children)

My kids dad (I am not bio-mom) told me straight up he only wants adult children. I pointed out to him kids ARE adults now and he has no relationship with them due to that attitude. So many fathers want to phone it in then are shocked when they have no meaningful relationship with their kids.

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[โ€“] CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world 60 points 6 days ago (2 children)

America is just like every other highly patriarchal society: No

Some men are wonderful dads and incredibly involved but culturally speaking American men still very much buy into the concept of โ€œwomanโ€™s workโ€ and included in that is women raising his kids for him

[โ€“] Landless2029@lemmy.world 29 points 6 days ago

It doesn't help that men looking after thier own kids is seen as "babysitting" or even worse a predator.

There's plenty of YouTube reviews of men taking thier kids to the park and watching them play while being a parent. Then female parents call the damn cops on the clear dad being a dad.

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[โ€“] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 57 points 6 days ago (4 children)

am a dad, been told I'm 'babysitting' my kids a few times.

[โ€“] Delphia@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

My wife has warned her friends "Never refer to my husband looking after his kids as "babysitting" unless you want a snarky, probably very rude response."

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[โ€“] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 34 points 6 days ago

I can only speak from personal experience. my father

  • never changed my diaper
  • beat or screamed at me more than we ever "played ball" or "had fun"
  • worked me like a dog
  • only gave me approval two weeks before he died
  • said he "loved me" five times in my entire life before he died
  • never once cared for me while I was sick

as a father myself I

  • change diapers when I need to
  • never beat my kids
  • screamed at them only when they were caught doing something incredibly stupid and dangerous
  • let them play and pay them for their work
  • play games or watch them play outside
  • try to support them as best I can with positivity
  • tell them I love them every single day and night
  • have stayed up for days caring for them while they were sick

I'm not looking for a medal, or a thank you. All I'm looking for is a bit of appreciation when they grow up and look back when they become parents.

I want to break the cycle of shitty father figures, that's all.

[โ€“] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 36 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Not in my experience. Men behave as if their contribution is either working a job to earn money for the family and/or drinking/physical violence.

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[โ€“] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 11 points 6 days ago

Grew up in America. Father never raised me. It was 100% my mom. My only memories of my dad are him working in his office, him losing his shit if you talked to him during the day (even to say "it's lunch time, dad"). Him leading the conversation at dinner, him yelling and screaming at my mom and I, and him punishing me if my grades were more than. 5% away from perfect.

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[โ€“] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 51 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Here in the UK its getting more and more common, but we still have to put up with strangers asking "are you babysitting today?".

Like no mate I'm being a parent.

[โ€“] banazir@lemmy.ml 17 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (5 children)

You're not being that apparent if they have to ask.

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[โ€“] MBM@lemmings.world 33 points 6 days ago (5 children)

... why are the men drawn normally, but the women like that

[โ€“] Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Every character is a stereotype of a country.

And those are just the female stereotypes of those countries.

Sweden is the home of the women brought home by the vikings. Big breasted beautiful blondes.

The US is the home of the women who go tanning and get plastic surgery.

[โ€“] Soulg@ani.social 12 points 6 days ago

The artist of these comics is a woman as well.

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Oh honey, I'm so sorry

[โ€“] Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

For reference, here are the other countries:

England:

France:

Japan:

Brazil:

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[โ€“] LadyButterfly@reddthat.com 10 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Yep I'm uncomfortable with it. They could have stereotyped in a way that didn't need overt sexualisation

[โ€“] dustyData@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

If you see all the other comics of this series by the author (a woman, BTW) you realize it's part of the joke. It's all about calling out stereotypes and the point is that, all countries are weird in their own way and bringing to light subtleties, similarities and differences beyond the stereotypes.

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[โ€“] CannedCairn@lemmy.world 33 points 6 days ago (2 children)

As a single dad in the Bible belt of PA, I feel this. I always got weird looks. I just love being a Dad.

[โ€“] Saprophyte@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Not a single dad, but my wife was gone for a year when our daughter was two. I used to watch moms struggling with kids in the grocery store and no one batted an eye (GA, USA). I'd do grocery shopping with mine in the cart and keep her amused while shopping and checking out and on more than one occasion for compliments about what a great dad I was.

I love my girls and spend as much time with them as I can and do things with them all the time. Still, my wife gets nothing and I occasionally still get pats on the back and compliments on doing basic dad stuff from both men and women.

Always struck me as such a weird thing. Sometimes moms really need more recognition too, I think.

[โ€“] Sunsofold@lemmings.world 9 points 5 days ago

That's a weird one. On the one hand, men in many areas somehow still absurdly think of childrearing as women's work, and a positive feedback when they act like a parent can help things in a better direction... but it also seems absurd to praise an adult for doing what really should be the bare minimum, clapping for them like a child who remembered to use the potty.

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[โ€“] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 26 points 6 days ago

there's two men who walk a baby down my street every nice day.

they must be really good friends or roommates to be so close all the time.

it's nice to see to men have such a strong unshakable bond together.

If I didn't know any better I'd swear they were married or something.

[โ€“] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Is Finnish dad distributing knives to the kids?

[โ€“] la93@thelemmy.club 13 points 5 days ago

The kids make their own knives in school, but not as babies. They ski as babies.

[โ€“] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago

I'm from the US and I did the stroller thing often. My kids are out of strollers now, but when I go run I see dads often enough out pushing one or two kids. I take my kids to the park a lot and say hey to the other moms and dads I know. I volunteer for things at my kids school, in their classes. One time it was me and two other dads, although that does seem to lean more heavily toward moms. I think moms are still better at other peoples' kids, at least I know that's not a strength of mine.

I think my generation of parents, right now, is equal responsibility. I have had to correct some extended family members, when my family shows up to a gathering and we have food, they automatically assumey wife made it, and I'll dissuade them of that notion. But that's coming from a generation of people where that's how it was, and I take no offense, and it also doesn't happen anymore.

I would also not take offense to someone saying "Look at you doing dad stuff," because hey, it's not always easy, and encouragement is ... encouraging.

[โ€“] Someplaceunknown@leminal.space 16 points 6 days ago (9 children)

why are they giving the babies knifes???

[โ€“] andxz@lemmy.world 55 points 6 days ago (3 children)

It's a Finnish baby, knives are mandatory.

Jokes aside, I'm a Swedish speaking Finn who happened to move to Sweden for the last year of school and my teacher made a point of reminding me it's not okay to wear a knife to school.

She made quite the face when my mother told her we stopped that particular tradition about a century ago.

But still, it's something of a national joke, lol.

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[โ€“] MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world 24 points 6 days ago

There's a joke here in Sweden that goes like: (With finish accent) "Boys! Stop fighting with knives! We gave you chainsaws for Christmas!"

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[โ€“] Echolynx@lemmy.zip 5 points 5 days ago

It's been a long while since I saw a SATW comic. I used to be obsessed with these...

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