Conservatism. That's why.
this post was submitted on 10 Jan 2024
201 points (96.3% liked)
News
31459 readers
3260 users here now
Welcome to the News community!
Rules:
1. Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.
2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.
Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.
Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.
5. Only recent news is allowed.
Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.
6. All posts must be news articles.
No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.
7. No duplicate posts.
If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
8. Misinformation is prohibited.
Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.
9. No link shorteners.
The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.
10. Don't copy entire article in your post body
For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
If every conservative wanted to off themselves I wouldn't complain, but they're going to take everyone else with them.
Not everyone else, just the antivaxers, seniors, immunocompromised and a small fraction of the rest of us.
And "Freedumb", and "I did my own research".
Because US citizens are uneducated and selfish? That's all it really takes.
Some, yeah. Some have no choice but to go into work sick, spreading it around. A lot can't afford healthcare because it's a dumb system that we just have to deal with.
Blanket statements assuming all citizens are as dumb, selfish, and callous are harmful.
He didn’t say all citizens, he said US citizens.
Because an even bigger epidemic known as "the stupid" is also going around.
Lab tests show it's lethal and puts everyone at risk. Symptoms include shouting things like "Murica", and wearing red baseball caps. According to the CDC the primary vector is Fox, OAN, NewsMax, and the GOP.
There currently is no cure.
There currently is no cure.
Lead poisoning comes to mind... Assuming the lead is delivered at sufficient velocity to a vital organ...
Because people like the HR lady at my job think it's fine to come to a company function with a fever and pour drinks for everyone. Fucking hag ruined the Christmas break for everyone in the plant. Nobody could visit with their families because one selfish person thought nothing of infecting anyone and everyone around her. Folks didn't learn a damn thing from 2020.
Folks didn’t learn a damn thing from 2020.
This above all. I remember thinking, if we at least learn some basic precautions, like not packing in lines in supermarkets, it at least would have served a sort of purpose. But people here act like it's 2018 again. We learned exactly nothing, and we have changed nothing. Not a single guideline is upheld here, not even the ones that are near zero inconvenience.
It went the other way and people "learned" to be anti vaxx lol.
Yes some places worse than others. I live in Denmark and we have about 90% vaccinated. Still that's beginning to be a while ago, and we have some that are beginning to get COVID, minor precautions could prevent that at least to some degree, with the added benefit of also helping against the flu.
So the difference is that here people don't die that I know of. In places that are not well vaccinated, it's of course even more sad that people don't take better care.
It's weird that there are still so many anti vaxxers in places like USA and some Eastern EU countries. When the evidence from here is quite clear. We have among the highest rate of vaccinated people together with Norway. And we have the lowest rate of deaths and long COVID together with Norway, and also among the lowest negative impact on economy.
But I guess somehow evidence doesn't count for them, but crazy people with bullshit claims do.
You need paid sick leave.
I get 24 hours of sick time for the year.
I feel like a part of this must also be from fatigue from masking, etc. Everyone seems to just be pretending that it's not a thing any more. I hardly see any masks.
Y’all need to get cooler masks
(Not specifically you obv)
What fatigue? People only kinda reasonably masked up in 2020 and 2021. Stupid public messaging like the “you do you” campaign in New York (of all places) have done huge damage to masking. Also WHO saying that masks don’t work..
I used to mask up pretty religiously but got fed up at people grilling me about it all the time e.g. you're not sick, no one is around, pandemic is over etc. I don't care anymore. We deserve it.
Wearing masks and thinking of others in society doesn't fit the me, myself, and I above all else narrative of a true Maga Patriot
I feel at this point most if not all of us know someone who died from covid. If that can't convince the idiots to stay on top of their vaccines, I don't know what will.
You can try to teach a pig to sing, but it won't work, it'll just annoy the pig.
Remember when this evil cartoon character was cartoonishly evil, and not like...100% accurate?
Cos they are flat-earthers antivax dumbheads..
Huh, I was gonna guess it was 5G.
5G was just to mindcontrol them to not vax, 6G will be to make them kill themselfs.
This was a pretty interesting read, not compleyely up to date statistics, but still. Is this trend still true? Anyone got updated data? https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/why-do-vaccinated-people-represent-most-covid-19-deaths-right-now/
I don't have any updated data, but reading this from the article you posted:
"Indeed, vaccinated people now make up the majority of the population – 79% of adults have completed at least the primary series – and the latest CDC data show that vaccinated people also now represent the majority of COVID-19 deaths. There are many more vaccinated people than there are unvaccinated people, and vaccinated and boosted people are, on average, older and more likely to have underlying health conditions that put them at risk for severe COVID-19 outcomes"
Seems to make sense. My guess is that most of the unvaxxed people that were gonna die from Covid have already died. Some people have become immuno-compromised after 2020, and so they are still dying, but most of them might already have an immunity built up through having caught it and survived. So it's likely those older, already vaxxed (but immuno-compromised) folks that are now being taken out by the newer mutations of the virus
(Again, i'm guessing, but it seems to make sense)
out of all the comments not one about the state of the US education system
when is the last time schools got major funding like back in the space race of the 60s?
not justifying behavior but might be a few reasons for this article and not to mention super fund sites found all over the US
Maybe because a lot of Americans don't have healthcare and the vaccine is no longer free?
I agree but I’m pretty sure the vaccine is still free at like cvs and targets. Similar to their flu annual flu shot
I don't think the flu shot is free without insurance either?
Not free, just covered by most insurance.
Yeah, the pharmas just jacked up the price because all the subsidized research and first couple rounds of profits only got them a medium sized yacht.
It's still free and they've offered multiple courses of it since it came out and they've been pretty liberal with it. When I was living there I got the 1st and 2nd dose plus 2 courses of boosters all for free.
I would think the majority of deaths are from some combination of poor general health in the population which is also aging, antivax/antimask/conservative bullshit, and workers rights sucking wrt sick time/etc.
Isn't it being free ending now for some insurances? I don't know if it has already happened or it's happening soon, but unless something has changed again, it's happening.
Not sure when/if that goes into effect but if so that wouldn’t have any weight on the situation in the article right now.
Vaccine is very free.
... with insurance
Wow, the housing crisis is over folks! 1500american/6per house*365days/year. That's 91,250 houses becoming available on a yearly basis!
They'll just get bought up by corporate landlords
You forgot that it's 1500 per week, not per day
Oh. Man! That's not enough, we need trump rallies to get it going again lol.
Wow, the housing crisis is over folks! 1500american/6per house*365days/year. That's 91,250 -houses- trailers becoming available on a yearly basis!