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[–] RejZoR@lemmy.ml 137 points 1 month ago (7 children)

God forbid operating system had a flag that said "This device is used by a child" and it would be set by a fucking parent as part of parental controls and not nanny states.

Instead we need to provide our photos and ID scans to some incompetent 3rd parties to prove we are in fact adults. Make parenting parent's job not the government. What the fuck is this?

[–] arin@lemmy.world 43 points 1 month ago

Just the usual Nazi state tracking citizens

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 33 points 1 month ago

Let's be clear, we're providing our biometric data to palantir, that's all this is about

[–] artwork@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I am sorry, but isn't it 99% not about "children protection" but general surveillance for everyone wrapped up in a "pretty" package that plays, again, on fears as the parenting and unforeseen future backed up with the "time-saving" features for those who are in a hurry within the same system?

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This has nothing at all to do with actually protecting children. This is entirely about the fascist state cracking down on its citizens and restricting their freedoms.

[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

No, no, this is the communism Republicans warned us about!!1!ONE!

[–] dansemacabreingalone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah arguing with their disingenuous bad faith bullshit is.... A lot. And you never win because the deranged pedophiles dont care about protecting children.

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure that any deranged pedophile you meet on the street is not going to be concerned about the welfare of children...

Yes but also the deranged pedophiles we all agree should be in charge of everything.

[–] gnuthing@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 month ago

I don't think any parents want their child flagged as a child online, would just make the kid a target

[–] dansemacabreingalone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Children are property. Government protects property.

Also, this isnt about children and you fucking know it.

[–] RamenJunkie@midwest.social -5 points 1 month ago

"Problem" is, no one does that. And I get that its on the parents in that case but these lazy ass parents basically want the nanny state to nanny them. The people who want this basically are only allowed to get off on being repressed by some controling influence (God, the state, etc).

It also means kids get around it. I used the parental controls on mybson't Xbix but he would just go play stuff at his friend's house.

Also, mildly related, and maybe its changed, companies need to make it easier for parents to remove parental controls. Because if I remeber, back when I did that after he was older (he is like 27 now), it was a pain to remove his Xbox account from being associated with mine as a parent.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 107 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It is insane how quickly this shit has appeared around the world.

[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Chronographs@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 month ago

https://tboteproject.com/ Can thank the usual suspects

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 17 points 1 month ago

Not insane. Coordinated. Organized. Elected.

Folks don't want to hold Nazis accountable for their Nazi laws.

[–] rozodru@piefed.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

not really. it was a natural progression. with any online movement it always goes undergound > cool > profitable > user blocked > forced. we're at the forced stage of social media. What I mean by this is at one point we found social media and even LLMs cool. companies decided they needed to capitalize on this cool new tech and make a buck out of so they in turn hammered ads and tracking into everything. the user eventually gets wise and blocks all of this while still consuming the product. So said companies now demand that world governments prevent people from out right blocking them so they can continue marketing to them and selling their data for a profit. They then mask this as "protecting the children". All you have to do is look at whose financially backing these movements. Surprise, Surprise one of the top backers/lobbyists is Meta.

It moved quickly because it needed to move quickly otherwise the potential for lost profit was massive. LLMs are getting on board with this too because they're not making any money and their best bet is to "age restrict" their bots so they an sell the users data. and user data from an LLM is INSANELY more valuable than say Facebook user data. Users are more likely to tell a bot things that they wouldn't admit on social media...and there's money to be made off that.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This isn't just social media. It's the OS. It's all of normal computing. Next it will progress to hardware and then we are truly fucked

[–] tmyakal@infosec.pub 3 points 1 month ago

Can't make a gun registry, but you'll get put on a list for buying a GPU.

[–] muffedtrims@lemmy.world 55 points 1 month ago
[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 53 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Can someone Luigi Zuck, Musk, Besos and the whole gang?

[–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I prefer kirked. It was great to watch it, would enjoy watching others that deserve it.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I have the video saved on my phone so I can watch it whenever I'm feeling down.

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 39 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Many people will switch to Linux (people will still work around SystemD, so don’t bring that up).

The part that will be the killer move is when they enact a law requiring all US hosted websites to enact age verification via attestation from the operating system. Some savvy people will get around that while they still have root, but then you’re gonna see a Google Play Services style ramp up where the attestation will only pass if Secure Boot is enabled, and eventually root is restricted.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

if that happens, techies will flee the web to something else. Gopher, Gemini, who knows. And then adapt it to their needs.

[–] wrinkle2409@lemmy.cafe 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What happens if secure boot is enabled privacy wise?

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Secure boot by itself isn’t a bad thing. It basically just says the OS you boot from has to have a signed and approved bootloader/drivers. The problem is, the approval list is handled by the board manufacturer and not every version of Linux supports it since it has to be signed and approved. Also, if you have unsigned kernel level modules (such as an open source video driver) that can cause the process the break as the driver isn’t signed. I believe user space is much more accepting.

From a privacy aspect, it isn’t directly impacting, except it limits which distros you use, and may prevent you from doing other privacy related changes as a low level or forcing you to use signed binaries that you may not be able to audit.

Edit: a few notes as I went diving further. So Microsoft actually controls the root CA that SecureBoot is based on and signs other apps, including Linux and then they add their own shims in. So sadly MS still has control out of the box.

However, it is possible on most (not all) systems to add in your own signing keys to the secureboot enclave. So with enough work you can do it yourself, but you basically have to make sure everything is signed with your key when you compile the kernel and associated drivers.

[–] wrinkle2409@lemmy.cafe 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh I see, so it is basically a corporate controlled allow list that could be used for forcing you to have a specific system. Absolutely disgusting that this is hidden under the guise of security

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago

That’s…. a stretch. The issue is that the default CA that manufacturers include is Microsoft, so Debian developed a shim, signed by Microsoft, so that they could sign their own distros ans modules.

Since a lot of boards allow you to inject your own key into the MOK for UEFI, you can basically roll your own with a little work. It’s just not “out of the box” since they’d have to validate multiple different distros.

It’s more a matter of sheer size of Microsoft vs Linux rather than locking. I’ve said “a lot” and “most” around boards given that I’m not sure what the breakdown is, but I haven’t seen a board that doesn’t do that.

[–] muxika@piefed.muxika.org 32 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Next thing you know, you turn 18, you get a notification on your laptop saying you've been enrolled in the Selective Service, you get a knock on your door, a military officer greets you, and says, "Good morning! We've taken notice of your academics and your Steam library...have you thought about your future, son?"

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

"But I'm a League player!"

"We take those."

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Not just black bagged and kidnapped to the nearest reeducation center?

[–] Saprophyte@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My watch has an operating system. So does my car.

It's this level of dumb that makes me wonder when boomers are ever going to get term limits so someone who can open outlook without asking a staffer can make a decision on tech.

[–] dansemacabreingalone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

open outlook

Which one? Do you see how unreasonable a standard that is?

Im not saying there shouldnt be a standard, im saying thats an unreasonable one at any age. What about saving a word doc as a pdf then opening it?

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.cafe 9 points 1 month ago

Papers, please, comrade.

[–] BigTrout75@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Does it work in command line?

[–] flactwin@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

so speculate about it is not a solution, idk what they want to build except their cashes)

[–] workerONE@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

So they're going to need to start using identity certificates?