Well then expecting cyclists to not destroy your vehicles is too much as well…
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Expecting a Molotov cocktail to respect a driverless taxi is also "too high a bar"
We tried training our AI on real-world bike-lane-respecting telemetry, but there just wasn't enough data!
Beyond the absurdity autonomous cars only following selected rules of the road, doesn't London have pretty good public transit?! Like, among the best in the world for a big city. Why in the fucking world would Waymo operate there unless it wants to compete public transit and bikes.
... London is famous for it's taxis. Their role in london culture goes back centuries.
AFAIK taxis don't pretend to be "sustainable".
They're a plague on the city.
But they have a lot of political clout as they can jam up all the bus lanes when anything slightly inconvenient happens to them.
I suppose if that's a pressing concern for them, they could always go back to the horse-drawn versions... Though I'm not sure what that has to do with the relevancy of the role taxis play in London transit.
it's ok, but far from best in the world, most archaic maybe.
Far too many fucking taxis blocking bus lanes. and it's very expensive to use the trains. Taxi drivers would go nuts and dirty protest all over the city if anyone proposed to cut fares.
If they stop in a bike lane there is some error in the software.
You can fix that by hitting that big black reset button on the roof with a sledge hammer
Oh, but letting AI take over the world is a very justifiable and achievable goal that will have no negative effects I am sure.
Given that there's no one driving the car, there little disincentive to smash a tail light or window of one of these things pull in front of you.
You can also disable them nonviolently.
Does the cone thing still work?
I've never tried it, but I haven't heard that it was thwarted yet.
Simple solution, just burn them down because that's what people 'expect' you to do with them.
Is it illegal to stop in a bike lane in London? A quick search suggests it is in fact legal. That sucks, they should change that. It's illegal to drive a car in a protected bike lane in CA, and Waymo follows the law. When it's not a protected bike like, they put their stupid huge SUV into the lane and sit for as long as legally allowable and it sucks.
You may sometimes be permitted to stop or park in a cycle lane, even when it is in use, but only when the normal rules of our red routes allow. Signs or road markings will let you know where this is permitted.
https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/red-routes/rules-of-red-routes/cycle-lanes
This is like saying they can't be expected to avoid pedestrians using crosswalks. Customers are expecting the car to drive through the crosswalk when there's no one is crossing...so how are they expected to avoid hitting people who are crossing the street?