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The Epstein files reveal beliefs about race, eugenics, and engineering humans that run to the heart of Silicon Valley.

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[–] manxu@piefed.social 49 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Having worked Silicon Valley through two boom-and-bust cycles, my impression is that these people hurt because they don't understand their success. What I mean is that the Internet is a random multiplier: if you have the right idea at the right time and the right structure, you become almost infinitely rich. If you lack anything in the combination, you get nothing.

Take Facebook: the idea had been floating around for a while, but successive implementations suffered from technical, then legal issues. Then Zuck comes along, steals the idea, implements it successfully and boom, you have an infinillionaire. But when the same guy comes up with the next idea, it fails. Then the next one fails. Then the Metaverse happens and the failure is astounding.

It's basically a lottery, where your startup is the ticket. One person wins, a million plays for nothing. The winner is selected at random.

But people hate that idea, so they come up with stupid "logic" justifying why Zuck won and Yang (Yahoo!) failed. You can't imagine how many people in Silicon Valley devour Ayn Rand's ideology, how many believe in genetic racial superiority, and other fairy tales. I was always surprised they didn't go for divine intervention, but they are largely agnostic.

Zuck of all people is one of the dumbest most arrogant assholes in existence. It's crazy that he doesn't regularly forget how to breathe. Yet he's an "infinillionaire" (gotta remember that word btw).

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Having worked Silicon Valley through two boom-and-bust cycles, my impression is that these people hurt because they don't understand their success.

I this isn't necessarily wrong this hints that you didn't read the article.

A lot of the techno-oligarchs have been revealed to be Nazi-level eugenicists that literally want to build a race of übermensch, and have already started by trafficking women onto ranches to have their kids. This includes Elon Musk, who was a friend of Epstein and currently has over 20 kids with several women

[–] Shindo66@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Youre absolutely right. I would like to add in the "reddit" model. Why things make it to the front page is kind of the same comment. Two people could post the same thing at the same time. One goes viral and to the front page where millions will see it, one might get 10 views. One comment on a post, when funny, right in the before that post takes off, can get 30k likes. Its all timing and being the one that gets initially off the ground. Ive always wondered though, how easy would it be for reddit to pick the winners and losers? Bot accounts and fake upvotes, even just a little bit in the beginning, could put it on "trending" and get it to the front page and the "algorithm" could put it in everyone's feed. Are you seeing what naturally won or what they wanted you to see? Did facebook naturally win or was it what they wanted to win?....

[–] LetThereBeNick@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Reddit is gamed like that. Even before LLMs there were highly active users that caught bans for using multiple accounts to boost all their posts.

Facebook didn't catch on in a similar way, because people didn't have personal feeds yet. The way startups are funded now seems to follow your model though. Decisions on high about what people should see/want.

[–] Shindo66@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

And apparently thr fundees really like blue eyes...

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 5 points 4 days ago

I mean... Zuck's claim to fame is that he made a basic site with some other dudes to rate the attractiveness of women. That's it, that's the big idea... other people and investors made Facebook/Meta what it is. It couldn't be more clear that Zuck is just along for the ride and he is desperate to prove otherwise.

[–] Ogy@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This is an incredibly frustrating part of my work with startups. I do economic assessments for climate tech, and if it doesn't work on paper then you can be damn sure it won't magically start working in the real world. There are millions of reasons a startup might fail and very few that even give a chance for success (big VC success, not just normal profitablity or survival).

In summary I agree it's a massive lottery, but it drives me crazy how much investment goes to lottery tickets that don't even have a legitimate chance of success.

[–] sunbeam60@feddit.uk 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

It’s almost as if investors themselves often aren’t that smart and they, themselves, won the lottery that gave them money to invest.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 5 points 4 days ago

What I mean is that the Internet is a random multiplier: if you have the right idea at the right time and the right structure, you become almost infinitely rich. If you lack anything in the combination, you get nothing.

To sum it up: winner-take-at all with an enormous element of luck in determining the winner.

[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 80 points 5 days ago (3 children)

...and this is why massive concentrations of wealth must be outlawed - the sociopaths think they own the planet.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 32 points 5 days ago

taxes should be progressive and keep going up because you should actually have to be smart and compentent to be wealthy. When we cut taxes in the 80's we made it easier and easier for idiot trust fund babies to never lose their wealth.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 22 points 5 days ago (1 children)

the sociopaths think they own the planet.

Check your local laws regarding property rights... effectively: yes, they do.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 7 points 4 days ago

More importantly, they own the means of writing the laws.

[–] a_gee_dizzle@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 days ago

Yeah seriously that article paints a really dark picture

[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 48 points 5 days ago

I heard about it on Behind the Bastards iirc. Absolutely horrifying, like, in addition to the abuse of minors: some sort of breeding kink, he envisioned having a mansion full of women carrying his babies to term.

The deeper you go with this the worse it gets - both about Epstein himself and how many people were in on it.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 24 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Eugenics has always been a popular idea, all you have to do is call it something else.

In internet culture, the movie Idiocracy (2006) is extremely popular and the most common sentiment is that it's coming true. It's a cute move, but it's central premise is Eugenics: the idea that if humans are allowed to breed naturally, it'll lead to societal collapse. There are so many online people who think that movie represents how evolution works. It's scary.

[–] pipi1234@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago

I highly doubt Idiocracy central premise is eugenics.

I would argue that, the dangers of convenience, cults of personality and overall enshitification are.

[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

it’s central premise is Eugenics

~~Nowhere in the movie is that even hinted at.~~

One of its premises is that people will get dumber and even more sedentary if tech capitalism is allowed to take over the world, unfettered, probably including education and possibly even healthcare (no, the movie itself doesn't even go to such detail).

~~If you equate that to Egenics you should take a good look in the mirror: only genes can make people dumb & fat? Is that what you're saying?~~

It's not a perfect movie, but we are seeing similar effects all around us. There's a good reason "It's got what plants crave" became a popular meme.

[–] gnu@lemmy.zip 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Nowhere in the movie is that even hinted at.

The opening scene tells the viewer the decline in intelligence in the future is due to the less educated/intelligent reproducing more, that's getting rather close to eugenics.

I don't think this was intended as more than just a handwave argument as an explanation for the plot necessary premise of people being stupid in the future (i.e. it's not something to get offended over) but it is mentioned nonetheless.

[–] LetThereBeNick@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 days ago

You could take genes out of the picture and the story would hold. Just assume people raised by impulsive parents distracted by 8 other kids are more likely to repeat the cycle. Contrary to supporting eugenics, that idea is inclusive and powers progressive welfare reform.

[–] HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com 2 points 4 days ago

"I'm gonna fuck all ya'll!"

[–] pipi1234@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago

Fair point.

[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 5 points 4 days ago

Scientist who mingled with this man should be forced to read these emails in public.

the article gets wilder the further in i go.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 7 points 4 days ago

Yep. They torture and exterminate us because our wealth is proof for them that we should not be around.

White supremacy in my Western powers that be? Say it ain't so!

[–] lemmyng@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

Something something "Sydney Sweeney was just talking about her eyes and nothing more, leebcuckz!"

[–] tixnou@feddit.cl 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Saying that these people are sick in the head would be an understatement