That could is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that headline.
Also, we can barely get OEMs to support phones for 5 years now...
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I'd say, 10 years is more than enough, the device is practically unusable after that, even if it's still working.
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If this was an economically scalable proven thing today, phones wouldn't be sold with batteries in 5 years.
It is doable, but it's not practical. Technology moves so fast nowadays, a 10 year old i7 is easilly surpassed by a modern day i3.
Don't get me wrong, I use old tech all the time, but it's becoming increasingly impractical to do so.
Yeah so you'll just move your battery from your i17 to your i18.
I was talking about desktop CPUs, but the same principle applies to any sort of SoC or CPU. What is "the best" today is surpassed within a month or two.
This is also why I usually buy second hand computer equpment. There's no point, it's extremely expensive the day it hits the market, and in a year, it's like 1/3 of the price. This is especially true for GPUs.
Not all phones are smartphones. Theres still plenty of use cases for call/sms only phones.
And they don't support anything higher than 3G, which will go in history in a few years... and then the only thing you can use them for is a paper weight.
Bollocks. Nokia 800 tough, 2660 flip, 2720 flip, 225 4g, 6300 4g, 8000 4g - just from one manufacturer, and there's plenty of others.
They're called burner phones. No real OS on them, no upgrade path, nothing. You wanna make phone calls and send SMS, that's fine, but let's face it, most people nowadays don't use phones just for that.
Remember when light bulbs used to last decades? A phone battery that lasts that long is incompatible with capitalism.
When they were really dim and far too red like 80 years ago? Or when they switched to LED and actually lasted a decade, like now?
Batteries that last a decade will open up the opportunity for expensive tech like we never imagined.
Or when they switched to LED and actually lasted a decade, like now?
LEDs with Edison screws on them don't last that long. Maybe Siemens or some other brand name manufacturer, but the cheap Chinese ones last only a few months.
It's the heat buildup that's the problem. Disassemble them, slap a CPU heatsink on it and yes, they will last forever.
Seems like a manufacturer problem. I've have the same LED bulbs in my house for 5 years plus with no replacements. Various makes too .Some of them came with me from my old house. No idea how old they are. With incandescent bulbs, I used to have to replace at least 1 a year. I used to keep a stock in the back of a cupboard.
The problem with led bulbs is that they are build to operate at their limits. It's still within spec, but just barely which is why they break so quickly. If you would reduce the current by half they would last for decades.
But of course Big-Light doesn't want that, so after the initial well-build led bulbs became standard they switched to cheaper designs with less internal led modules for the same brightness.
As I said, the simplest solution - better cooling.
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The battery is not the main point of failure in contemporary phones, especially not one that makes you buy new unit. This new radioactive battery doesn't change much
The original Edison bulb still works iirc
Sensationalized clickbait.
100 microwatts, aiming for 1W in 2025. That's a big difference and 1W is still not enough for a cell phone. Phone-scale batteries aren't even on the roadmap.
1 Watt is plenty to power a phone on average. While idle a phone uses less than 1 Watt. The thing is, nuclear batteries are a misnomer, they're actual electrical generators. For this to work in a phone, you'd want to pair it with an actual battery, and the generator would charge the battery while the phone is idle and that would provide enough power on average for when you're actively using your phone.
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1W is enough for a cell phone, if you combined it with a capacitor for brief bursts at higher watts.
Now play a game for an hour...
Not all phones need to play games and gaming phones don't need to use this type of technology. I would love a phone that I don't need to charge and most people could benefit from one. And for the select few that like to play intensive games on it then they can get ones that would need to be charged.
Though I doubt this technology will be the answer to that want though.
Yeah especially with just 0.001% of the estimated workload (~10W when gaming, but even when standby 0.5W, 100uW are still just 0.02% of that...). Needs a lot more research...
You throttle the cpu with long heavy workloads, just like phones already do due to the significant thermal constraints of the form factor.
My phone uses 0.6W when idle and 1.2-2.5W while I'm using it. Peaks are 8W+. No way an internal reactor only can power a phone.
Edit: 0.3W when screen is off.
You could do it with a parallelized output from a bunch of them.
Or with a diesel generator in a wheelbarrow
It's a variation of the same scam: https://youtu.be/5M5MF6KE-jY?si=7odXF_9q2SkumX7X
https://www.sec.gov/litigation/litreleases/lr-25829
Betavolt seems to be just using those flashy 3D renders of a battery that likely doesn't exist. It wouldn't surprise me if their datasheets mirror what was claimed by NDB.
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Looking forward to a mini reactor being directly next to my balls
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It's not that radioactive and Nikel 63 decays to copper, so there is no radioactive waste being produced when the battery is depleted.
Some of the first pacemakers used radioactive batteries. We left that concept pretty fast. And that is considering you have to cut your patient open to change a pacemaker battery. This will not happen in commercial cellphones
I think so as well.
But, it would be nice if it could be applied to vehicles.
Fallout universe timeline, here we come!
Oh, good. So whenever some fool tosses a phone out of a car to get crushed on the roadway, shoots one because TikTok, or otherwise mangles a phone, we now have a potential for radioactive material to be spread around?
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50 Ci? That's a helluva lot of activity.
And that's for a battery that only produces 100 microwatts. A battery that produces 10000 times more power will be a lot spicier.
Perfect, my phone will outlast me
Depending on how radioactive the battery in your pocket is, that’s not hard.
This again? It's utter bullcrap I'm afraid.
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These tech articles on some new advancement are basically the same phenomenon of bullshit as articles ending in a question mark. The answer is always "nah"
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