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I still don't want to touch it unless they remove Denuvo and the forced 2K launcher. Feels like with each entry it becomes less about the game and more about extracting as much money as they can through DLC while ramping up the anti-features.
Always good to be patient with Civ games. By the time they've fixed most of its flaws, there will probably also be some solid discounts on the game.
Rage culture in gaming is such an obnoxious problem. So many people on the subreddit rag on the game and haven't even played it.
The firaxis team took a big swing, whether or not they missed is subjective. Vote with your wallet, all the previous iterations of civ are still there to be happily played.
I think the game is not as good as Civ VI but is following the same cycle all civ games have taken since I started playing. It's not as fleshed out as the previous entry until all the expansions land.
Personally, I will always appreciate game designers attempting to try to do something fresh over playing it safe.
I will always appreciate game designers attempting to try to do something fresh over playing it safe.
They did not attempt anything fresh. They just blatantly ripped off the mechanics from one of their competitors.
It's not as fleshed out as the previous entry until all the expansions land.
That’s not the issue with the game, at all.
Splitting the game into distinct eras that atomically enforce switching is novel to me as someone who plays quite a few 4x games including humankind.
Enjoyment of a game is always going to be relative, this bitter hatred & entitlement at the pit of some gamers souls brings down the whole medium. You don't like the game? Don't play it, go on and enjoy the hundreds of thousands of other games out there rather than linger and whine until the devs cater to your whims.
You don't like the game? Don't play it, go on and enjoy the hundreds of thousands of other games out there rather than linger and whine until the devs cater to your whims.
Counterpoint: Humankind already exists. It exists as a similar but alternative game series to Civilization, which is a good thing. Variety is the spice of life. Turning Civilization into a clone of a completely different game in the one way most at odds with its own identity is a bad thing. Civilization is a unique game series doing something different from other 4x games. Losing that unique style of game is no benefit to consumers.
You already have Humankind, the devs of Civilization don’t have to cater to your whims by just cloning Humankind. If you don’t like that they’re turning Civilization back into a Civilization game, then don’t play a Civilization game. You have Humankind, just go play that.
For better or worse Ed Beach, designer of Civ VI, decided what makes the next iteration of Civilization Civilization. Like it or not, civ switching is now part of the franchise.
Maybe you should try Old World? That game is rad too.
I mean for better or worse (It’s better) it appears Civ switching will no longer be part of the franchise. It can remain part of the Humankind franchise where it belongs.
Old World is a rad game, but it’s not about leading A Civilization through time. It’s a different kind of game.
Civilization can add whatever kooky mechanics they want, but ultimately the game is about playing A Civilization. It’s right there in the name.
I still don't see why they copied this feature from Humankind. It was the worst part of an otherwise decent game. They should have learned from Humankind's flaws and done something like keep your civ but change your leader by era. Same general concept, but feels much more Civ.
Civ VII is a failure of market research for exactly that reason. I don't even think the shifting cultures in Humankind is necessarily a flaw; it's just different. But it's very clear Civ players hated it, and a single trip down Humankind's Steam reviews makes that crystal clear, so when I saw Civ VII was copying that feature my immediate response was "dumb asses, this is gomna fail."
Apparently it was profitable though. Somehow. And the fact that its profitability was considered news-worthy says a lot.
Finally, I didn't buy it because of having to switch civs. I'm still gunna wait to hear reviews of the full thing, though. I'm enjoying Civ 6.
Ngl that was the only unique thing that attracted me to 7 and now that they effectively backpedaled I don't see why would I fire up 7 over 6 or 5. Yeah it's still an option, but them giving up on what was supposed to be the core feature of the entry is a sign that whatever the future content updates may be - they will be made with 1 civ through all ages in mind. Wish they would've stuck to their guns and instead improved on the idea, oh well.
There was no improving on that idea. Just a bad mechanic to its core. In a game called “Civilization” you couldn’t even play as one.
Same. They took a risk with that in 7 and I liked that. What I didn't like was starting over each time, I would have liked a new Civ but then simply continue on with different perks. Now it's the same as 5 and 6
Agreed. I haven't picked it up yet since the best time to get Civ is a few years after it's release but that was the single most refreshing thing that nearly made me buy it on release. I'm a bit disappointed that they're backtracking on it instead of committing to improving it.
VII has yet to hold my excitement, I've played a few rounds but 80% of the time prefer opening VI.