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Memory prices tipped to fall as China starts flooding the market with DRAM and NAND chips
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Damn you Mr Xi
this post was submitted on 22 May 2026
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I sincerely hope this fucks up the market. I hope all the other manufacturers get fucked right up their greedy fucking asses.
Except maybe in America if MAGA dreams up some tariffs because Freedom (Chinese EVs have entered the chat).
This helps the AI companies.
Nah, there won't be any tariffs. Nvidia wouldn't like them
But think about Samsung, SK Hynix and Micron shareholders
I do think of them.
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The Chinese AI labs are really trying to pop the bubble, too.
How?
Well lemme ask you this. What if models 80-90% as good as Claude, with weights just thrown out there for any provider (or homelab) to host, flood the market? What if they're so dirt cheap to run, they're almost free, and don't even need Nvidia GPUs? What they need fewer resources to run with each update, instead of more?
...What if this already happened, and Big Tech is maddly lobbying to ban/censor them before people realize it, and that the "infinite scaling" thing is a big fat lie?
That's the state of things.
It turns out that off-shoring your economy to a political rival is a really dumb thing for a capitalist to do.
But, but, this quarter profits.
Yep, the Chinese models are already up 10 times cheaper and now that Anthropic, OpenAI, and Google, all are increasing prices up to 10 more for models like Opus, it will make Chinese models anywhere from 50 to 100 times cheaper.
American corps. are betting that since people have their workflow already established they won't switch to other providers, but that's not the case. There's already a mass move to Chinese models.
People keep talking about Chinese models, where are they? How do I used them instead of Claude? Are they safe?
ollama or llama.cpp to self host if you have a good mac or good video card. this is perfectly safe.
there are a bazillion hosted inference providers to choose from https://huggingface.co/docs/inference-providers/en/index be aware that you are sending your code to fuck knows who and they are sending back fuck knows what. ymmv, yolo.
hook one of them up to opencode.ai or pi.dev or one of the bazillion other 'harneses' or whatever we are calling it this week and try not to rm -r anything important.
for a good time try and get a chinese models to say something about tibet, or taiwan... its like having your own virtual tankie tamagochi!
be aware that you are sending your code to fuck knows who and they are sending back fuck knows what
So literally the same as Western-made AI?
Yeah only the Chinese government is currently far better at working behind the scenes with companies than any other government in the world?
Incompetence is a feature of governments at times.
I trust the Chinese government more than American tech corporations. One side is socialist, the other side is fascist.
inference providers could be anyone from anywhere, there are even proxy resellers. some are harvesting and reselling your data.
if you send your code to claude/openai/google there is certainly a much higher degree of confidence in who you are sending your data to. yes they to harvest your data and can send you malicious commands (esp if you have a promp injection attack).
its like buying a cheap vps, if the stakes are low its fine, if it important then you need to consider about the consequences of your actions.
nb: i am no expert, just fucking around.
Liu Wen tends to be in China
The most famous is Deepseek. It's not even made by "AI" company, it was a side hustle from stock trading company. They released it for free just to flex.
I hear people use minimax as replacement for sonnet and deepseek as replacement for opus, both can be used directly in Claude code instead of Anthropic models
Check Ollama dot com
In a way it has actually.
Deepseek was big because not only did they publish the full model for everyone to use, but the MoE structure significantly brought down the hardware requirements in terms of processing power. As long as you have enough VRAM, you can run it on older hardware with no need for the latest Nvidia stuff.
Now they got v4 which many have found to be within a 10% margin of Claude and ChatGPT.
On top of that, China has cheapo VRAM GPUs available or soon to be released, like the MTT S80. Yeah it sucks as a Graphics card because the chip is behind, but you get 16Gb of GDDR6 for much cheaper than anything else.
But its not a conspiracy to fight China. The infinite scaling was just Nvidia solidifying themselves as the monopoly because they want all AI infrastructure to be dependent on them, which is why they still illegally export to China, despite an export ban attempting to reduce their potential competition.
Moore Threads (MTT) already has their own CUDA like system called MUSA, and I'm sure they'll be happy to put in proper hardware support for new stuff like Bf16 and FP8/4. It'll take a few years, but eventually China will catch up to the point where Nvidia gets shanked by cheaper hardware.
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Agreed. I am not longer paying token fees as I am running QWEN 3.6 27B MTP on my 4090 GPU and it is as good and as fast as the frontier models for agentic coding.
What's the rest of your stack look like?
Hyper scaling was always about cornering the computer market, It was never about providing us some vastly new and superior service.
They should be strung up. And middle management needs to return to fucking school.
It’s like Kyle Kulinski said “I’m starting to understand re-education camps now”
Hyper scaling was always about cornering the computer market, It was never about providing us some vastly new and superior service.
Exactly, its a method of taking tens of billions of dollars in capital and buying a near monopoly. No other providers can compete if the hyperscalers buy all of the hardware, driving up the prices while also selling the service at a loss.
Nobody working out of their garage with a cool idea for a better service can compete if they can't get hardware and have to charge double what the hyperscalers are charging because they can't burn capital for years.
It's a practice that should be considered illegal market manipulation, because that's what it i
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I just bought 2x 8gb ddr3 for €25 so I can play games from 10+ years ago.
You can try games from 20 or even 30 years ago. Plenty of bangers in any genre.
Yeah exactly! Any recommendations?
Scorched Earth is a classic
All the Command and Conquer games
Dungeon Keeper
Carmageddon
I'd say Civ 3 but I don't think modern ones require strong hardware
Baldur's Gate
It's not 20 years old but Tyranny is a great RPG
Idk i didn't play all that many games back then, Deus Ex, Return to castle Wolfenstein, Arma cold war assault, Vice City, Warcraft 2, Batrle realms, check those best games of all time lists. I mainly play racing games from back in the day, maybe you like different stuff. But if there is a community that takes care of the game to be up to modern resolutions and easy to run, it's a good game worth trying out. Guy made a modernized port of the OG Medal of honor, it's free and it's alright. You can also emulate consoles so you can play Playstation 1 and 2 games, Nintendo and Sega stuff. I have like six golf games emulated on my phone, playing Silent Hill when i get a chance (good thing with emulation is you can save progress regardless of the game's saves so you don't need to grind like back on the day). For Dos games check out Exodos project. There are so many amazing games already made, polished and maintained by the community.
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