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[–] switcheroo@lemmy.world 68 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Disastrous mistake? Like hiring a rapist traitor pedophile felon conman as president and giving him carte blanche to do whatever the fuck he wants with no consequences?

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 27 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago (2 children)

yes, that’s how dementia works

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

You forgot the dementia

[–] Astronut@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

A lot of that shit is just dumbassa, not dementia.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

It can be two things.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Cmon man. She was a woman of color. And she said 'no deviation'.

/s for all the idiot fucks

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 50 points 5 days ago (3 children)

If only there were some way they could have stopped him. But alas, congress is powerless when it comes to things like declaring war or allocating budget or impeaching presidents.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Congress, the courts, and the people are all powerless against the almighty Donald Trump.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 days ago

the people

That depends on us. Power that is not exercised is the same as powerlessness.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Wdym? They saved gaza, didnt they?

Oh.

[–] ThomasWilliams@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Who cares what Congress thinks, they don't .

[–] ryper@lemmy.ca 36 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

South Carolina's primaries are on June 9. Please Sen. Graham, talk enough shit about Trump's plan to get him to endorse someone else before then.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Only if those fuckers get out and vote this time.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago

Probably like his shitty 2020 OPEC deal that fucked us and made them billions while he claimed victory then blamed the Biden administration for the high energy prices that happened during Biden’s presidency under trump’s deal.

Trump is an absolute idiot and liar, and will sign yet another deal that will economically fuck the US while he claims to be winning.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Who said Trump is nearing a deal with Iran? Was it Trump?
This article is bullshit based on bullshit.

[–] green_goglin@thelemmy.club 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

The entire notion of a deal is a false presupposition manufactured by the Trump admin et al.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Yep, and now they attacked Iran again.
Allegedly to impress on Iran the importance of making a deal?!

Never trust anything coming out of the White house under this administration.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

He might be nearing a deal, but the title would be "Terms of Surrender".

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmings.world 4 points 5 days ago

Yeah, exactly. Just because these guys say something, doesn't make it true, especially if it's coming out of Trump's mouth. He just makes shit up out of thin air. He thinks wishes are truth.

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

How about that 1.8billion go towards compensating the families the kids that we killed. Then send the army of engineers to help rebuild. In return ask for the straight to reopen as it was.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

It is amazing that the hawks in the GOP have still not understood that the US has already lost this war. This is Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan 2.0.

And it is funny they blame Trump for starting it while being the group that always worked into that direction.

[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 23 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I'd say Trump picked/was coerced into attacking Iran for a few reasons...

  1. Israel wanted it.

  2. Epstein diversion.

  3. The Iran Nuclear Deal was one of the few Obama-related things still around. We know how obsessed he is with undoing Obama's accomplishments. He pulled the US out of the agreement back in 2018 but the agreement itself was still in place with the other countries and Iran was still generally abiding by it, until Oct 2025 of course.

I don't think we're giving number 3 nearly enough credit.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yep. He justified tearing up Obama's deal by claiming to everyone, including himself, that he could do it better. Then he discovered that actually he can't - that these kinds of negotiations are really, really hard, and they're a lot harder when your administration is staffed by total incompetents because you got rid of everyone with two braincells - and he got frustrated and resorted to throwing America's military at a problem that he couldn't figure out a better way to solve.

[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Except a good chunk of the military was also replaced by him and the cohort. So even that seems to be fucked up.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I think the issues go deeper than the changes in leadership. Trump had only been back in power for a little over a year at the point where they started this conflict. It takes a while for leadership changes to create the kinds of issues we're seeing here. I'm not saying those leadership changes aren't part of the problem, but they're not the whole problem. There are much, much deeper failures in American military planning and leadership that are being exposed here.

The most fundamental of these is that the US has entirely failed to acknowledge the lessons being raised by the Ukraine war. Ukraine has been actively reaching out to their NATO partners for years, offering to share their technology, training, doctrines, etc; everything they've learned about countering large scale drone and missile attacks. Every NATO partner has taken them up on this, except the US.

Patriot is the best air defence system in the world. There's no arguing with that no matter how much I might want to. But at $4 million per intercept, it's designed for an outdated model of warfare. Patriot was built to kill $50m+ aircraft. In that role, it's incredibly cost effective. But against a $20,000 shahed drone it's like killing a fly with a tank. The US cannot build and supply enough missiles to keep their Patriot and THAAD systems working against the kind of massed attacks that Iran is using.

The second lesson the US should have learned from Ukraine is how effectively an enemy without air superiority can still maintain air suppression, and how effectively an enemy without naval assets can maintain naval suppression. Ukraine learned that without having the ability to control the air or sea, they could still deny those spaces to their enemy. Iran took those lessons to heart. The US have been losing planes and taking hits to their ships because they assumed air and naval superiority was a license to act with impunity in those theatres. Having the best aircraft isn't the same thing as having unbeatable aircraft. Technology can reduce the risk to pilots but not eliminate it.

Now, when you deploy those pilots recklessly and relentlessly, you increase that risk by orders of magnitude. This is where those leadership changes absolutely do make a difference. I know through personal sources - which obviously means I cannot prove this claim without getting people in trouble, but I'll include it for context anyway - that the pilots stationed in Iran were running on close to zero sleep and a truly heinous amount of stimulants, had no clean water (bottled only, and limited amounts of that), and running an absolutely reckless mission rate. That kind of stuff is exactly why you get accidents happening. Combine that with a refusal to properly communicate with local allies, because they're too goddamn arrogant, and you get friendly fire incidents stacked on top of those accidents and other failures.

The other issue we're seeing is that there's just a general lack of deployment readiness among US forces. Again, from personal sources (different ones this time, but same caveat applies) I know that US troops in the Balkans were being pulled directly off of NATO Forward Presence to go home and immediately work up for potential deployment to Iran. That's insane. Normally when someone is off of deployment you want to give them a solid month of leave just for a start. Deployments - even non-combat - are stressful and gruelling. People get bored, they get lonely, they get frustrated. They drink, they do drugs, they get in fights. Shit gets bad. No one runs deployments longer than 6 months because at some point basic order starts breaking down. Outside of dire need, you absolutely do not pull people off deployment just to work up for deployment. Even Ukraine is cycling people off of the front-line when they can. Same goes for naval (you can find plenty of articles about this); they've been pulling ships out of theatres like South Asia to use in the Mediterranean. That shouldn't be happening with the world's largest / most powerful military.

What this traces back to, I suspect, is issues that we saw as far back as the start of the Afghanistan and Iraq invasions. A lot of the units that they tried to deploy literally failed their readiness work-ups so many times that they just had to scrub their deployments entirely. What this means is that while the US employs a lot of troops and has a lot of ships, those soldiers and that equipment aren't actually at a condition or level of training suitable to being used in a real conflict. This is forcing them to pull stuff off active deployments because the stuff that's actively deployed is the only stuff they have that's capable of being deployed at short notice. That's a very, very serious problem. It's why you've got the Gerald Ford running what's expected to be an 11 month mission. Can you imagine 11 months trapped on a boat at sea? A whole year away from your family, away from real food, entertainment, privacy... A whole year of hot bunking (that means you trade your bed off with two other people; it's not your bed, it's the bed of whoever is sleeping right now) and navy canteen food while you queue for 45 minutes for toilets that don't work. I'd go insane. I guarantee there have been fights on board. And that stress leads to sloppy work and accidents.

These issues are compounded by the fact that the US fleet is, basically, old as fuck. The US Navy have been trying and failing to build new ships for decades now. It's been a litany of failed projects, each one supposed to replace a design currently in service, each one collapsing and having its funding pulled after proving to not be suitable for the task. First there was the Zumwalt, then the Litoral Combat Ship, then most recently the new frigates (which got pulled before even a single one came off the line). Now they're pulling funding off their next gen destroyers and cruisers to build the "Trump Class Battleship", which will almost certainly get killed off in a few years time unless they can find some way to reconfigure it into a design that actually makes sense. Meanwhile the ships they have are getting older and harder to maintain.

All of this together, I believe, paints a picture of decades of financial mismanagement. This isn't a problem that started with Trump's latest return, or even his last outing. It's been going on for much longer than that. This is a military with an obscenely bloated budget and no idea how to use it effectively. A military that has grown so big and unwieldy that no one knows how to keep it in working shape anymore. A military that throws hundreds of millions at Microsoft to develop AR goggles that soldiers hate, but has to cut funding for battlefield medicine. A military that builds and then cancels a light tank that can't be carried on a transport aircraft or cross the bridges on the training ground it was designed for. A military that reintroduces bayonet training after issuing a rifle that doesn't have bayonet lugs.

Trump certainly hasn't helped things by putting a guy like Hegseth in charge. He's exactly the right kind of idiot to actively accelerate this decline. But in my estimation, the decline has been happening for quite some time.

[–] kmartburrito@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If only there was a way to stay on an existing agreement which was way better than where we're at right now. Oh wait, we had a better agreement that Obama created and abandoned it and ran up the national debt significantly. Who woulda guessed something like that could have happened?

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Obama created

That would be the exact reason trump would tear it down with glee.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 days ago

"Would"? Did. He did tear it down with glee. That's why the world is in this mess now. Because the drooling idiot child Americans voted for is so unbelievably racist that he has made destroying the first black president's legacy his only goal in life.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They just want more war.

Also they're embarrassed that Trump's "deal" is unconditional surrender, which doesn't give Netanyahu what he wants, which is more death and destruction rained down on Iranian civil infrastructure and noncombatants.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago

I mean, as much as I don't wish to distract from what massive pieces of shit these people are, I feel like it's also possible that they think that the US unconditionally surrendering to Iranian demands is.... Bad?

Like, yeah, they're also in Israel's pocket and all that. Multiple things can be true at once. But like, we don't always have to look for ulterior motives. Sometimes the obvious thing is correct.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

This President was a disastrous mistake from the word go. They put him there, they keep him there, they should not complain.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Yeah, but everyone was too busy beating up on a woman because of a verbal gaffe, to prevent him from taking office again.

[–] 4grams@awful.systems 3 points 5 days ago

Right, at this point essentially every decision has been a disastrous mistake, no sign of slowing down..

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

Ladybug’s such a chickenhawk

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmings.world 2 points 5 days ago

If these psychos don't like it, it's probably something we should do.