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[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 84 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Uvalde county overwhelmingly re-elected the sheriffs and politicians who caused this. They also voted Abbott. It's hard to maintain sympathy for a community who had this happen to them, and turned around and voted for the same people. They had an opportunity to bring about change and decided that the death of all those kids didn't matter. If they don't care about their own community, why should I?

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

I shouldn't be surprised.

Partisan ideologues are why we'll never make any more meaningful progress in this country.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 45 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That's a funny way to say 'cowardice.'

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 24 points 2 years ago

To be honest the title should have included the complete quote ... "cascading failures of leadership".

It seems like AI is writing too many headlines these days. :/

[–] macarthur_park@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

Idk, it takes some real courage to stand between a parent and their dying kid.

[–] mo_ztt@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What THE FUCK. I knew this stuff but for some reason reading it again made me all furious again.

Eva Mireles, from inside the adjoining classrooms where the shooter was, called her husband, Ruben Ruiz, a Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District officer, who was outside the school. According to DPS Director Steven McCraw, during the call Mireles told Ruiz that she had been shot and was dying; when Ruiz "tried to move forward into the hallway, he was detained [by law enforcement] and they took his gun away from him and escorted him off the scene." Mireles eventually died from her gunshot wounds.[82][83]

After the police cordoned off the outside of the school, parents pleaded with officers to enter the building. When they did not, parents offered to enter the building themselves.[84][85] Officers held back and tackled parents who tried to enter the school, further warning that they would use tasers if the parents did not comply with directions. Video clips of these interactions were uploaded to social media, including one that depicted a parent being pinned to the ground.[86] Police pepper-sprayed a parent trying to get to their child, and an officer tackled the father of another student. Police reportedly used a taser on a parent who approached a bus to get their child.[13] A mother of two students at the school was placed in handcuffs by officers for attempting to enter the school.[13][87] When released from the handcuffs, she jumped the fence and retrieved her children, exiting before police entered.[88] A video clip showed parents questioning why police were not trying to save their children, to which an officer replies: "Because I'm having to deal with you!"[89]

And, they harassed her afterwards because she was giving interviews that made them look bad.

Pedro "Pete" Arredondo, said he arrived at the school thinking he was the first law enforcement officer on the scene. He claimed he abandoned his police and campus radios because he wanted his hands free to shoot the gunman, and stated he also thought the radios would slow him down. He said one radio's antenna would hit him when he ran, while the other radio was prone to falling off his belt when he ran, and that he knew from experience that the radios did not work in some school buildings. Arredondo said he was unaware of 9-1-1 calls being made from the classrooms the gunman was in because he did not have a radio and no one told him; the other officers in the school hallway were not in radio communication either.[97]

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

If Ruiz were to go all Frank Castle on those guys, I don't think I'd blame him.

[–] mo_ztt@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

No kidding. I'm genuinely surprised that not one of the people who had family die in there has done it.

[–] mo_ztt@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

"I think it's a step in the right direction," said Kim Rubio, whose daughter, Lexi Rubio, was killed in the shooting. "I think for the first time we felt respected – we felt treated with respect, and I believe we're going to get the answers we're looking for."

I can’t even come up with any kind of sarcastic commentary. 😢

[–] Tolstoshev@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

Let’s see some cascading firings and sentencings.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Failure would imply that the cops actually tried to stop it.

... Huh? That's what they failed though?

FBI Stats for Mass Shootings for the curious: https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/active-shooter-incidents-in-the-us-2022-042623.pdf

2022 had 50 incidents.

9 incidents where LEO got to engage shooters.

7 of them killed by LEO.

2 killed by citizens.

29 apprehended by LEO.

9 shooters suicided.

21 LEO wounded.

1 LEO died.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The first failure was the 2nd Amendment.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

There were multiple opportunities to take the shooter into custody and make sure he couldn't own a gun before he ever bought a gun. All it takes is one felony conviction.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robb_Elementary_School_shooting

"He had also previously posted violent threats online.[127]"

"Ramos' social media acquaintances said he openly abused and killed animals such as cats and would livestream the abuse on Yubo.[128] Other social media acquaintances said that he would also livestream himself on Yubo threatening to kidnap and rape girls who used the app, as well as threatening to commit a school shooting.[127] Ramos' account was reported to Yubo, but no action was taken.[127][129] "

"A year before the shooting, Ramos started posting pictures to his Instagram account of semi-automatic rifles that were on his wish list. According to a friend of his, he would often drive around at night with another friend, shooting at strangers with a BB gun and egging cars."

" On May 14, Ramos sent a private Instagram message reading, "10 more days". A person responded, "Are you going to shoot up a school or something?" He replied, "No, stop asking dumb questions. You'll see."[127]"

"According to the Texas Department of Public Safety, in September 2021, Ramos asked his older sister to buy him a gun, but she refused.[56]"

[–] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Fucking AND‽