Almost like the stock market and "economy" are just terms for how wealthy people's money is doing.
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Makes you wonder where all that stock market money is ultimately coming from...
AI speculation.
Likely devaluing of the dollar.
Edit: stocks aren't like a bank. The "valuation" is just the median sale price over some number of trades/time.
Yeah that edit is what a lot of people don't always realize
If a company jumps up a ton in market cap, that doesn't mean the equivalent amount has been paid for its' stock. Long term holders came in at much lower prices after all. It's the current price (which depends on what people are willing to buy/sell for right now, aka the order book) multiplied by all the shares that exist, including ones that may not have been sold in a decade in the case of some company like nvidia.
Let’s sabotage and burn everything
Last time I was at the grocery store, I casually unscrewed their credit card reader display from the register while nobody was paying attention.
It's the little things that really warm my heart.
If one were to do this in Minecraft, one should be aware that there may be ALPRs in the parking lot often capable of facial recognition, overt and covert in store cameras capable of facial recognition and bluetooth trackers to pinpoint peoples' exact location as they move through the store.
Ain't nobody going through any of that trouble for a loose screw. They will barely do it for tens of thousands of dollars in theft.
Ain’t nobody going through any of that trouble for a loose screw.
Yep. They'll assume it came loose on its own, maybe through vibrations over time or something.
And, hopefully, they'll bring in a highly paid repairman to come fix the problem.
I'm genuinely down, let's organize.
Burning is still risky without more people on the cause but I suppose sabotage is still very viable even with smaller groups of people. I’ve been mulling over things like getting a job at places that are actively helping this administration to fuck things up and slow shit down for them under the guise of being an idiot who can’t do anything right or preferably totally incognito
The stock market is genuinely meaningless and has been detached from the real economy for well over a decade. It's indicative of nothing other than greed and the fact that the federal government keeps printing money and handing it directly to the wealthy.
How is the stock market increasing if people aren't buying the things that those companies produce? I know the answer is because the stock market is based entirely on feelings and doesn't have any basis in reality. But I still want to ask the question.
Stock price is dependent on the average trade price, so technically you could just drive up a stock if you had limitless funds.
But the fun stuff is market cap (the "value") of a company only takes the current price into account, because how else could it work?
So recent trades drive up the value of a stock that most people bought when it was cheaper, doesn't mean a billion or trillion or whatever dollars went into it recently. Only means there are more buyers than sellers and the price has gone up.
It also means that you can't actually sell the entire company worth of stock and get the value listed as its market cap. There wouldn't be demand for it and it would plummet hard.
All the money that's accumulating in the hands of the ultra rich has to go somewhere, and that somewhere is investment assets and investment assets are chosen based on going up in price and said going up in price needs not be for any reason other than that money is going into those assets in the expectation that the prices will go up (i.e. it's just a feedback loop of price increases attracting more buyers which in turn makes prices go up).
It's one big Ponzi Scheme and it will keep on going until there is no more money entering the scheme.
As it so happens we're living a long period of the wealth that was accumulated across society for decades being sucked out from the hands of the many into the hands of the few, and said few then keep putting more money into investment assets (what would be the point of buying yet another yacht) which is what keeps the whole price goes up because people buy -> people buy because price goes up loop going in so many asset categories, from housing and stocks to ultra speculative stuff like crypto.
This shit will only stop when it crashes and the longer it keeps going the harder it will crash.
Tbf a lot of it is ordinary people with their 401ks or ETF purchases. Like a very big percentage. That creates the baseline demand, which means the line is always going up when things are good.
Then the ultra rich and the gamblers make bets on which companies beat that constantly rising line.
advertising bot networks
The stock market looks like gambling but it's actually fraud.
I feel like it's a spectrum that's entirely dependent on how much wealth and connections you start with.
The stock market isn't really dependant on companies actually producing stuff. The expectation of them producing stuff is enough. Which is why this whole AI-circlejerk exists for example.
It is all insider trading and companines funding each other with the same non-existant money.
I know the answer is because the stock market is based entirely on feelings and doesn't have any basis in reality.
I mean, that's phrased really about as well as anyone could phrase it. You could also say that there are two Americas: the 1% and everyone else. The stock market is a measure of how the 1% are doing. When Bondi said "the Dow is over 50000!" in that senate hearing, she was basically just saying, "the rich people think this administration is great, so you should too."
2 factors:
Every salary person has 15% of their income go to the stock market for their 401k.
Most things are staples that people have to buy. Companies increase their prices and consumers don't have a choice. The increased price means increased earnings.
Currently the rest of the stock market is essentially held up by 7 companies.
https://oriongemini.substack.com/p/the-number-is-going-up

• Tier 1 — Magnificent Seven / Mega-Cap: Up 75–100%+ over five years. Cash-rich near-monopolies trading on AI futures. Effectively function as quasi-sovereign entities. Collectively hold over $420 billion in cash.
• Tier 2 — Rest of S&P 500: Up 50–60%. Piggybacking on the giants through index weighting. Solid balance sheets but increasingly dependent on AI-adjacent demand.
• Tier 3 — Russell 2000: Up roughly 17%. The “one percent of the losers.” Struggling but kept alive by access to public capital markets. 40–44% unprofitable. Facing a $709 billion refinancing wall in 2026–2027.
• Tier 4 — Private Middle Market: Flat to declining. Consolidating from roughly 200,000 to 125,000 firms over two decades (RSM). Margin-squeezed by tariffs and input costs. RSM MMBI showing fragility.
• Tier 5 — Main Street / Small Private Business: Fighting to exist. No access to Wall Street capital. Absorbing inflation that large firms pass through to customers. NFIB Optimism Index showing persistent fragility.
For tech, it goes up because expectations on higher profits. Datacenters and the dystopia is driving right now. Memory sticks are through the roof because datacenters buys it all. Same with drives and gpus.
It takes years to build the dystopia so lots of profits on that. And then profits on watching people in real time and selling their data.
We don't buy groceries to feed our families with the fucking stock market. All it is is a way to tell how the epstein class is raking in the dough like the parasites they are.
I actually do that. And I'm no Epstein. Shit pays the bills and requires very Lil effort.
This, more than anything, is why I hate both parties. Harris tried to gaslight us into thinking the economy was okay. Now, Donald's doing it.
But these limpdick, rich motherfuckers don't understand that the poor do their own grocery shopping, their own child care, actually open their own medical bills, and actually notice how much worse their schools have gotten and how many fewer opportunities there are to build a better life. The economy doing great for the rich has zero meaningful connection to the circumstances of the poor and middle class now.
Electing Harris would have meant Lina Khan would have stayed at the FTC and we wouldn’t have the jackass Trump just appointed to the Fed. Both parties are not the same.
I miss her.
The difference is the Dems actually have a track record of making the economy at least less worse than Republicans BY FAR.
Not to mention the Build Back Better bill was originally going to be the single most progressive infrastructure upgrade bill in US history, but it was gutted because of the GOP.
I’ve just replaced “the economy” and “stock market” with “rich people’s yacht money.”
I mean stock market going up makes the rich richer, poor people don't have significant stocks
They would if there were more employee owned companies to work for.
I'm scratching my head wondering how we haven't had an official recession™ yet, but maybe it's because the rich haven't quite put everything in place to leave everyone else holding the stinky bag. Maybe that'll come with the AI company IPOs and private equity inclusions into pension and retirement investment accounts.
Wonder if i should cash out all my stocks... I know its gonna crash haaard soon
Into what?
Idk moneys
Don't worry, trickle down economics will start working and sort this out any day now.
It’s great, if you are in that big club that you ain’t in.