Good luck with discoverability. You'll be competing with the Zen browser.
this post was submitted on 01 Jun 2026
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Heh, the name wasn’t chosen to reach a huge audience anyway. If I get too many users, I might lose my zen over trying to support them 😂
But I’m happy to have a few folks along who don’t mind building their IDE from source.
What’s wrong with zedless or gram that you did this?
Nothing wrong with them! But since I want to build another tool on top of it (for fiction/novel outlining and writing) I figured this was a good exercise to become familiar with the codebase. And since I still do some Rust development, having control over both my IDE and my writing software seemed an added benefit :)
I tried gram, and it was rife with bugs. Couldn't recall the specifics. Interested in zedless, however.
Hasn't had an update in nearly a year, according to their github. Bit disappointing.
Does it qualify as cognitive dissonance maintaining a fork of a partially vibe-coded product to remove vibe-coding tooling because you hate vibe-coding?
Maybe, but don't ruin the vibe over it.
Hehe, I suppose it might to some extent 😅 But well, I don't wish to control how others do their coding, and it would be silly to ignore other's code altogether because they used a different method than the one I prefer.
What's the plan for ongoing maintenance?
I'll aim to sync changes from upstream about once a month. But given that I don't have prebuilt binaries or anything, for now I expect only people enthusiastic enough to build from source to use it :)
Wish you all the luck. Wondering: why not “ship” a configuration? All AI features and layout can be configured through JSON afaik.
Thanks!
As for the motivation of the fork, basically two reasons:
- Even though you can disable AI features and configure the layout, the teasers and some UI elements remain as they try to draw you in.
- I want to use their UI framework and editor for a different project too, so I want to be able to start that from a trimmed down base anyway.
Aren’t all of these features able to be disabled in zed itself? If so what does a fork offer me instead?
Yeah, if you don't mind the UI clutter/teasers, it doesn't make much of a difference. For now, the most noticeable difference is that the default layout is more old-school, with the project layout and the git panel on the left-hand side again, though even without this fork you can configure it to be like that too.
Yeah so far I’ve been content. It’s good that forks are popping up for stuff like this though, if zed decides to go the way of Microsoft in any way it’s nice to know there are some alternatives already.