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[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 2 points 4 minutes ago

The republicans didnt grow a spine. The loser want out and needs a scapegoat to explain running away from a war he started.

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 11 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Exactly as written in the Constitution, right?

"The President can start wars unilaterally and Congress has to pass legislation to stop them."

It doesn't say the FUCKING OPPOSITE, does it?

Fucking clown shoes.

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 4 points 51 minutes ago

"House"

They could say all Democrats and 4 Republicans. Hardly a big shift and those 4 will fall in line on anything that matters.

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 57 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

Don't be too hopeful.

The roll call Wednesday was 215-208, but next steps are uncertain. Trump would likely reject any measure from Congress to limit his commander-in-chief authority. Still, the tally, with four Republicans joining Democrats, was a rebuke of the president’s war strategy, and cheers erupted in the House chamber.

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 68 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

So much for checks and balances when the president can just "reject" Congress limiting his power.

[–] Andonyx@lemmy.world 21 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (4 children)

This isn't anything new or specific to Trump. He can veto this like any other measure and the veto can be overriden With a 2/3 majority vote in Congress. That's how it's always worked.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 47 points 3 hours ago

The way it's always worked is the president can't unilaterally declare war. Let's not pretend we are still bound by precedent or rules anymore.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago

@ChonkyOwlbear makes a very good point: the idea that the burden is on Congress to disapprove of the war and that Trump can veto their disapproval is completely ass-backwards, if you really think about it, and its absurd that the media and/or general public is treating it as anything remotely resembling business as usual.

(This isn't meant to be a criticism of @Andronyx individually, BTW. I can't blame them for falling for the same logical sleight of hand as almost everybody else.)

[–] potpotato@lemmy.world 29 points 3 hours ago

Takes 51% to allow the prez to declare war or 67% to stop the prez from unilaterally declaring war? Dumb.

[–] notacat@infosec.pub 17 points 2 hours ago

That’s how it’s always worked

…since 1983 when the supreme court decided the legislative branch did not have the power to veto the president. Even when congress was the one to delegate the power in the first place.

See: Immigration and Naturalization Service V. Chadha

[–] GlendatheGayWitch@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Its the Constitution limiting his power. Legally, congress has the power to declare a war. We've just been ignoring that as a society for a while.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

The Vietnam conflict was decades long. Comment checks out

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

This guy never heard of the Trail of Tears.

[–] chocrates@piefed.world 20 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

It's all moot anyway. If the rules worked he wouldn't be able to continue anyway without congressional approval.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago

If the rules worked he would be in jail instead of the Whitehouse.

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I absolutely guarantee you the rules would work perfectly for a democratic president.

[–] protist@retrofed.com 6 points 2 hours ago

Yes, Democrats do tend to vote for people who follow the law. You're right about that

[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 hours ago

Even a baby step in the right direction is a step AND the right direction.

Better than no step at all.

[–] corbindallas@fedinsfw.app 16 points 3 hours ago

4 fucking rapeublicans do not a rebuke make

those 4 scapegoats know the penis in cheif will veto

[–] n4ch1sm0@piefed.social 17 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

About fucking time. Even if it'd be veto, Congress should've been pushing for this among other things on a daily basis since the pedo in chief took office

[–] zd9@lemmy.world 0 points 24 minutes ago

It's not legislation though, just symbolic bullshit

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 5 points 2 hours ago

The war powers resolution from the House would not immediately stop the war, but it would provide a symbolic — if not legal — step against further military action.

The resolution next goes to the Senate, where four Republican senators last month joined Democrats in advancing a similar measure to curtail the U.S. campaign against Iran. The Senate has yet to take a final vote to approve or reject its own war powers resolution.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 15 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Ummm. Can't Trump just veto anything Congress passes, anyway? This is all performative, at best.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

In this case, it ought to work exactly the opposite of how you think: a Congressional resolution is supposed to be the only thing that gives Trump authority to engage in war to begin with, so the only thing vetoing one ought to be able to accomplish is to remove that authority. There isn't supposed to be such a thing as as resolution disapproving of the President's unconstitutional unilateral action; if anything, what Congress just did should be treated like revoking its prior approval and thus not be vetoable.

[–] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world 26 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Yes but if Trump is forced to veto then Congress is left again to reconsider how badly they want this to stop. We need congress to grow a pair of balls and this is apparently how it will be done.

[–] Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

We need congress to grow a pair of balls and this is apparently how it will be done.

The Republicans control both houses of Congress; even the best case midterm scenario wouldn't give the Democrats enough votes to override a veto.

[–] GuyFawkesV@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Technically the ABSOLUTE best case, in which Dems pick up every single Senate seat (which would probably translate to the requisite 2/3 in the House) they have the barest of margins to do so.

But then let’s talk about our Fetterman problem…

[–] Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Technically the ABSOLUTE best case, in which Dems pick up every single Senate seat (which would probably translate to the requisite 2/3 in the House) they have the barest of margins to do so.

The realistic best case scenario—particularly after Republican-slanted gerrymandering—won't be a two-thirds majority in the house, and definitely won't be a two-thirds majority in the senate.

[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 hours ago

If anybody powerful enough was ever going to stop this with nonviolence, it would have happened already.

They expect this to happen. It's part of the process. It's just more guidance on who to purge and who to villify in the media. It'll have the same effect as the children who begged Trump to stop raping them.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 9 points 3 hours ago

The people he fucked over are getting revenge. It probably won’t turn into anything.

Somehow, i’m sure we will be told, this is the Democrats’ fault.