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[–] RunawayFixer@lemmy.world 42 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The generic name for Revlimid is Lenalidomide.
"Since its initial approval by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in December 2005 for the treatment of certain cancers, the price of Lenalidomide, manufactured by Celgene, has risen significantly. At its launch, the cost per pill was $218, equating to an annual cost of approximately $55,000 for a standard regimen. Following FDA approval for multiple myeloma in mid-2006, the price per pill increased to $280, or about $70,560 annually. As of 2023, the price per pill had reached $892.

Since its approval, Revlimid cost has increased 26 times. According to a deposition by a Celgene executive, marked as highly confidential, the manufacturing cost of each Revlimid pill has remained approximately $0.25 throughout this period. Celgene claimed its patent protected Revlimid until 2027, and has engaged in several practices to prevent other manufacturers from producing a generic version of the drug, including refusing to sell the drug to other drug makers for testing purposes." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenalidomide

Lenalidomide became available as a generic medicine in the Netherlands in 2022. The price in the Netherlands then dropped from €218 to €0.90 per pill. https://www.margriet.nl/gezondheid/kankermedicijn-revlimid-goedkoper-waarom~b43e1f4b/

[–] Dnb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Freedom apparently.

[–] Chef@sh.itjust.works 216 points 3 days ago (5 children)

The pharma industry likes to defend its pricing by saying:

The second pill cost 25¢.

The first pill cost $800 million.

What they never actually say is that the US government (thereby the taxpayers) heavily subsidized most of that cost.

Big Pharma could use its own Mario Brother, just saying.

[–] Whitebrow@lemmy.world 50 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Even if we go by 0 subsidies as an argument, anything past around the 800 thousandth pill sold has already paid for itself and is now pure profit.

The argument deserves to burn alongside whoever uses it to extort people for life saving care.

[–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Also most pharma research is done by public universities that private pharma companies then buy the rights to.

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[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

Brave to assume that only one country gives a subsidy.
Australia has the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme that does the same thing.

[–] Widdershins@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm on board with Wario flat-out eating the next one.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I thought waluigi was going to do the wawawewa dance in their faces

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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

Let's-a go!

[–] nocturne@slrpnk.net 83 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Best selling? Or largest profit margin?

[–] Steve 59 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yah, bestselling is wrong.
Most profitable would be the term.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 15 points 2 days ago

Fucking evil.

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 47 points 3 days ago

It’s almost like health care and free market economics aren’t compatible

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 17 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Pharma profits are too high, but you can't really tell by that kind of comparison. The parent company (Bristol Myers Squibb) that produces Revlimid has profit margins around 30% which is high, but obviously nowhere near what those numbers suggest.

The difference is the cost of development of both successful drugs and drugs which go nowhere. So if the company made zero profit by reducing prices across the board, the price of Revlimid could come down to $666 per pill, still each costing 25 cents - that obviously still looks crazy!

[–] MrEff@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Read the article. The company wasn't the one to discover it. They bought it for pennies then put in minimal research to further develop it, but only based on the research of another doctor who wasn't with the company. Then they put in another round of research to develop it once more only to cheat the patent law, not to improve the drug efficacy. In the end they spent far less than the normal amount to develop what normally justifies the cost. Then, the price hikes were independent of development pushes and were tied only to quarterly profit demands.

[–] hark@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (5 children)

How much do executive payouts, lobbying, and marketing costs take out from those profit margins?

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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Pharma companies could also be considered government and worker owned and pay for the cost with taxpayer money...oh wait, we already subsidize this stuff with our taxes.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 11 points 2 days ago

oh wait, we already subsidize this stuff with our taxes.

Privatize profits, socialize losses.

[–] ranzispa@mander.xyz 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I also hate the system (and I work in research, meaning that my work directly goes into the profits of these companies) however it does eventually lead to better drugs getting developed and through the years their prices do decrease steeply once the patent terminates.

I hope we came up with a better system to handle this.

I'd like a public European pharmaceutical company to exist, that would solve many of these problems.

[–] blaggle42@lemmy.today 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We should gamify it. We should socialize the medicine, so everyone can afford it - I mean, come on- but then:

If you work in a lab which creates a life saving drug - you get a ticker tape parade through every fucking city in the USA - you get a bronze statue in the "park of medical heroes." Everyone knows you as "the man who fucking cured HSHBRHF variant 4x."

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[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

their prices do decrease steeply once the patient terminates.

DAE read this as patient‽

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Babe, wake up. Insulin 2 dropped.

[–] quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The pharma industry might be the only industry that buys in tons and sell in milligram

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

This is America.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 12 points 3 days ago (2 children)

biologics(this includes cancer biologics, autoimmune,psoriasis, eczema, and some rare diseases) is where pharms make thier money. because they are most thousands a month, wholesale, insurance is very stingy about covering certain biologics. although some do have a "coupon" option.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

Oh yeah love that coupon. They approve the first few months to show you it will work and then jack up the price

The price of biologics kills me. I know it costs about $20 dollars for a month of GLP-1 agonists, because I've made similar peptides myself in grad school. Something like a Solid Phase Peptide Synthesizer runs $10-250K, but the cost to synthesize a 40 amino acid linear peptide at industrial scale is like...$0.30 USD per milligram. Shorter chain peptides are even cheaper. A 15AA linear peptide can be as low as $0.01/mg.

There are of course other expenses, especially labor, facilities, certification, and waste disposal, but these companies are still easily making 40-50% profit margins on biologics. Compare this to non-biologics pharmaceutical profit margins around 15-25%, or for other industry comparisons, grocery stores around 1-3%, restaurants 3-10%, and software at 15-20%.

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

This fucking disparity is why there's now a parallel industry revolving around equally questionable alternative treatments.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

Bristol Myers Squibb also makes my cancer drug, Sprycel, which has a similar price tag at just over $18k a month without insurance.

They also make my mother's heart medication Eliquis, which is similarly costly as well.

[–] imsufferableninja@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Have you considered just not having cancer instead?

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[–] KiwiTB@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (17 children)

Drugs can be massively expensive to make with some needing many decades of work so it makes sense they are sold for a lot to gain back that investment. The only issue is if they don't drop the price after they have recouped the cost and profit they needed. Capitalism strikes again.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 62 points 3 days ago

This only has legs if they’re developed without being largely government funded, which to my understanding isn’t true for a lot of drugs.

[–] WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today 32 points 3 days ago (6 children)

I think they'd justify that by saying they need to ensure the funds they need for future research on other breakthrough treatments. This is not entirely baseless, but just another nail in the coffin for why medical research shouldn't be funded primarily through capitalist methods.

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[–] ConstantPain@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Here it's provided for free by the public health system.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

This is why we have antivaxxers.

Who can trust an industry that so blatantly exploits the sick and the dying?

[–] forkDestroyer@infosec.pub 3 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Wonder what would happen if civilians gained the means to make some of this medication at home.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

probably harder to do then making simple medication like meth, tylenol. things like bioliogics, certain immunosuppressants need a technical know how, chemicals reagents,,,etc, need to know the chemistry behind alot of them. biologics need some organism like yeast or bacteria to make.

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