Props for posting the government announcement directly btw
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YouTube too? There’s an abundance of tutorials over there…
But no Discord.
A dumb populace is easier to control.
Yeah that seems extreme. I wouldn’t mind if they only took away the comments section
YouTube does provide the ability to livestream, and it sounds like livestreaming is one thing that they're upset about, not just commenting.
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Ironically, apparently 10 Downing Street livestreams there:
https://youtube.com/@10downingstreet/streams
EDIT: And on Twitter, but that's also targeted.
https://x.com/Keir_Starmer/status/2066416751848706064
I guess that there's Sky News:
https://news.sky.com/video/watch-labour-conference-live-as-pm-to-make-crucial-speech-13441407
And the BBC:
Enforcing this ban will be a privacy nightmare for people.
Which is the idea, especially assuming it also targets the decentralized networks like the Fediverse. Like, will self-hosting Fediverse instances, and self-hosting anything at all even if it's completely offline suddenly be criminalized there?
And what about open-source OSes like Linux and BSD? Will those also be targeted or will websites start blocking those OSes in UK borders now?
Rather than regulate the cancer that is social media companies, they want to ban youths from being easily able to contact one another outside of regular texting and phone calls.
Probably not a coincidence that the UK just ruled that protesting the genocide in Palestine somehow constitutes "terrorism". Seems all these laws against young people on social media all sparked after it became apparent that most all young people oppose Israel. Not a coincidence.
Well, the cancer isn't social media, it is the data harvesting. That should be regulated to hell.
In defense of the UK government, they didn't ban protesting the genocide in Palestine, they banned expressing support for a specific organisation which protested the genocide in Palestine by breaking into a military base and damaging equipment. It's an important distinction, and to claim otherwise is spreading misinformation.
That said, this ban is very short sighted and seems out of touch, I expect it'll just create a social divide between those who find a way around it and those who don't, which may be worse than the problem they're trying to solve.
Well of course social media wins this one, they're paying big money to influence policy over there too! It's no coincidence, but they have A HUGE influence in many countries. I watched a video on this very thing. It's long by detailed and good.
https://media.ccc.de/v/39c3-a-post-american-enshittification-resistant-internet#t=869
Guess some mid level government officials was sick of the Yo mum jokes in COD... About as stupid as the UK porn ban.
Seems kinda like a pecking order. Target the young ones. And by prohibiting kids, you can ID everyone.
That's the thing. I'm not only perfectly fine with getting anyone under the age of 16 off the Internet, I'd also like to see everyone under the age of 21 off the Internet. But it has to be done in a way that utilizes the strength of modern technology and protects our privacy. It's extremely doable to achieve this, and governments know this, but getting kids off the Internet is not what the government is trying to do.
The government can probably id kids anyway through their parents
Time to be criminals in the eyes of the law. Young people will just use a VPN anyway.
When privacy is criminal, only criminals will have privacy.
The worst part is they will use "free" VPN apps. You think botnets are bad now? Wait till a billion kids install these apps on their phones.
They're 100% going to come for VPNs as well.
Apple is already locked down. Googles already inching at locking down Android phones and governments seem primed to facilitate that. Clamping down on VPNs can be a driver for that. Being way more restrictive on routers too like the US and it's foreign router bans
Even Windows is KYC'd by default as consumer Windows generally requires an MS account now and setting up an MS account requires your DOB and may some day even require a face scan or your ID, and in addition there's been active attempts to restrict Linux and BSD although the two laws of which I speak in Cali and Colorado ultimately exempted FOSS from their scope, and as for the Fediverse, the FBI raided a Mastodon server a while back so even that isn't entirely safe, and Windows 365 is facilitating thin clients connected to rented servers, plus the ability to build a PC is actively being pushed out of reach of everyone who isn't rich.
It's literal insanity how many people can't see a consumer VPN ban as the logical next step. I swear most of the population have the critical thought of an NPC.
It is true, but you don't necessarily have to be a dick about it. The real question is, now, do we declare the internet dead? Are there alternatives? Are there ways to push back? It seems to be a worldwide move, so we're all in the hole.
VPNs are next on the chopping block.
Corporations and the government will still be allowed to use them, but they'll outlaw VPNs for average citizens.
They will specifically outlaw privacy protecting VPN services. You will still be able to buy a commercial VPN service, handing over your ID to the VPN company, which will have to track everything its users do for compliance.
Alan Moore sure knows his stuff about the British government.
Why are they straight up trying to imitate the V4Vendetta?
This is all silly. Just make parents feel responsible for their children. Settle with social media companies to start a joint fund that pays for PSAs about safe social media use on kids tv shows and stuff. The tobacco and alcohol industries have to do it, so why not social media? Though we will end up with an unstoppable 15 second ad before every YouTube video about not sharing personal info in the comments or DMs.
One day someone who knows his arse from his elbow will be in a position to make decisions, but not today.
They know.
Well if not know then have sufficient ethics to properly commit to the job of work they have publicly taken on.
We've been waiting for someone like that for a long time. I can't even remember the previous actually-competent politician.
Because candidates with any sort of real competence are weeded out early in their political careers by a press owned by the sort of people that would view actual leadership as a threat.
True. The lower, local levels are also an efficient filtering system.
lol