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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.today/post/54923731

Some accounts are deleting their posts after a few downvotes. It's devastating on communities like c/asklemmy.

Lemmy doesn't track an account's karma like reddit. So, all downvotes will be isolated to your post or comment and won't affect your account—unless you wrote something truly horrible.

Remember lemmy is a community effort. Deleting a post also removes all comments on it. So you are not only robbing the effort others put in, you are actively removing knowledge from the fediverse. Others won't be able to find it through search and lemmy will seem lonelier than it already is.

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[–] naught101@lemmy.world 1 points 47 minutes ago (1 children)

Deleting a post doesn't delete the comments, it just makes then undiscoverable/inaccessible. See https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/5525

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 16 minutes ago (1 children)

So this problem should be solvable with only changes to client code then?

[–] naught101@lemmy.world 1 points 7 minutes ago

Not sure, there might be APIs that also need updating. But the data is there.

[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Devastating? Jeez.

If you want to make a code change proposal, go ahead and make one. Otherwise, deletion is a feature offered to Lemmy users to use as they see fit. In fact some earlier (unrelated) proposals to speed up the software were rejected on the grounds that deletion is required to actually scrub the entry from the database, rather than simply making it inaccessible through the web. The scrubbing requirement may have been abandoned by now though.

I half remember a Lemmy client (~~Voyager~~ Jerboa?) with a user setting to automatically delete any post or comment that the user makes after 7 days or something. It had nothing to do with karma. I didn't use that setting but it seemed reasonable to me. Lemmy is a discussion forum not a long term archive.

I do like the idea of adding a wiki feature to Lemmy, to hold info of long term value to a community. Reddit already has something like that.**

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 3 points 2 hours ago

On one hand, yes I find it irritating the way people treat their profile like some kind of extension of their personality and only post comments that will be well received.

One the other hand, I don't really see much "knowledge" being removed from the fediverse. I don't really understand how this behavior is devastating to communities.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 36 points 4 hours ago (7 children)

Deleting a post because it got downvotes? Who are these babies who can’t take people not liking them?

[–] Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip 7 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

As someone with social anxiety for some people seeing a large negative social response to something you said or did, even if just abstractly represented by a number, can be pretty distressing 🤷🏻‍♂️

I generally leave stuff up unless its misleading or something, but I can empathize with why someone would take it down

[–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 4 hours ago

Sometimes down votes are a sign that you're saying things people don't want to hear or the right things but on a crazy instance, but sometimes down votes are a chance for self reflection where you have to ask yourself "Am I the asshole?" and in the latter case yeah I'm probably just going to delete it. No apologies though, I'm not looking to be a saint here.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 27 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I will say in their defense that some people delete their comments/posts not because they care about "karma" but because they now feel they were wrong and are genuinely embarrassed or think that its continued presence is just an annoyance to other people.

That said, imo, unless you realize you've broken a rule in posting it or literally just posted by accident, it's healthier for yourself and the community to simply e.g. edit in a correction and a "mea culpa", even if you continue to get dogpiled for it.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Everyone’s presence is annoying. That’s called being human.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

Is there no one in your life whose presence you enjoy?

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

All the time? Fuck no. Hell, my wife and I love each other in part because we like time alone.

[–] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org -1 points 3 hours ago

That's an impossible standard to achieve. Best one can do is become neutral, whatever benefits they bring balances out the burden of dealing with them.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world -2 points 4 hours ago

Not who you're replying to, but.....nope.

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 1 points 1 hour ago

I've seen it a few times. It's stupid. Why bother participating if you're just going to take your ball home, so to speak.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago

people not liking them

Half of lemmy:

[–] brave_lemmywinks@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

I've had discussions here with people that don't want down votes, like in YouTube. There are instances that have them disabled.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Have you seen the president, or met any of the millions of people who voted for him?

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 2 points 2 hours ago

I've deleted multiple posts for different reasons:

  • answers were crap (mostly offtopic, missing the point, simply attacking me instead of the question, etc.)
  • mbin doesn't support muting notifications from topics, so I'd just keep getting them, so it was simpler to delete than wait for people to stop talking
  • I got my answers and it wasn't that important

I don't give 2 shits about "points". You could make this the most downvoted comment on the planet and I would leave it up (if I didn't get notifications)

[–] MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca 10 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I get that but there's also a certain "ugh" when a bunch of .ml folks find a post and want to yell at you about it.

[–] pmk@piefed.ca 2 points 2 hours ago

You can block them once and for all. It's like they don't exist.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

We all gotta find out about the .ml someday.

[–] MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

For sure. But it's just tiring to get notifications for hours of someone yelling about shit libs or something.

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 2 points 1 hour ago

That's a different situation though. Getting dogpiled isn't fun. Op is talking about regular normal posts and comments.

[–] Nytefyre@piefed.social 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think it's just downvotes that are the reason posts are deleted. What's being ignored, is what follows after downvotes. And that is, users being antagonistic over nuanced posts because the posts don't contain the kind of brainrot-meme-lamejoke kind of content that is the norm.

And it is never a good feeling getting dogpiled on for absolutely no reason other than just not appeasing to whatever expectancy that is there. Additionally, when there isn't enough activity aside from that, people can feel like 'what's the point?' because they simply don't have enough numbers of people engaging.

So this creates this discouragement within them to keep bothering.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 2 points 2 hours ago

I think this is probably the usual reason, rather than downvotes or whatever.

Is that why??? Oh man I was wondering why some people did that. Deleting their posts before I even have time to reply

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (3 children)

I was on reddit for 10 years and have been on lemmy for 3. I'm still not sure what this is really supposed to mean.

There is absolutely a "lifetime" karma score available for users, its just not centered in peoples bios like it is on lemmy. But it absolutely exists..

And if people want to go for high scores more power to them. Get that dopamine where you can queen.

[–] chortle_tortle@mander.xyz 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

I think their point is that on reddit, life time karma impacts the comment placement order; showing more comments from higher karma accounts. So I guess weirdos would delete comments that started to get negative votes on reddit so they weren't seen as undesirable by the algorithm.

[–] aloofPenguin@piefed.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Also, aren't there some subreddits that let you post if you have a certain amount of karma?

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Elaborate pls. I know Piefed tracks the user's votes under Attitude, but I'm not aware of tracking of other people's votes on users posts and comments. Am I missing something?

[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 5 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Total per-account upvotes minus downvotes value is tracked for everyone, it is just hidden by choice in Lemmy. Other softwares have other approaches, Piefed has the "attitude" you mentioned. Kbin used to just show the full "karma" value, I'm not sure if Mbin still does. It doesn't appeal to me so I don't keep up with development.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 hours ago

Oh yeah, good point. It's what lemvotes.org depends on.

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 1 points 2 hours ago

Yeah each platform has their own way to "deal" with the issue. You get a choice. Which is nice :)

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 hours ago

Metadata, mostly

[–] Darthcapi@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 hours ago

Don’t tell me what to do. Also, thanks for the info!

[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I figured it was just instances culling old posts without a lot of engagement. I’ve had posts or comments that I’ve made get deleted and I didn’t request them

[–] Brewchin@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Internet points aren't the only reason people delete their posts/comments, though?

I think people should think seriously about deleting posts, but comments that don't contribute to the discussion for whatever reason definitely have a shelf life.

And that's aside from the old "a comment you made 10 years ago in another life gets you fired/cancelled" issues due to times changing, some shitlord quoting you out of context, etc, etc.

[–] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 3 points 4 hours ago

Not that I care about it, but mBin definitely does have a lifetime reputation score you can find on someone's profile if you really care to see it

[–] itrealgood@mander.xyz 3 points 4 hours ago

I delete posts older than two days if they didn't contribute something worth looking up again later

[–] realcaseyrollins@hilariouschaos.com 11 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

People delete their posts because they aren't getting karma? That's kinda sad.