It won't be enough. Even if they do one, our allies know ~80 Million US Citizens will turn on them at the drop of a hat, the second a convicted felon, adjudicated rapist, conman tells them our allies are "bad" and "stealing from us". So our allies are separating themselves from us. They are getting rid of our technology, goods, and services. That will cost the US Trillions in losses, from Visa/Mastercard alone, but it also costs us Safety. Because those allies won't be as willing to share Intel with us. Many have already cut off Intel sharing. And that's the way we stay safest.
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I don't think it matters. The rest of the world has already learned that the US can only be trusted for four years at a time at best.
It's not like people are going to start trusting Russia either once Putin is gone.
The best apology will be executions.
Fascism is the one case where I'm willing to bend my morality regarding the death penalty. It should be considered a form of treason.
Yeah, don't apologize, be better. Starting with rooting out all the fascist dickheads. Other nations shouldn't take anything we say seriously until the holes that made this situation possible are filled.
No.
Apologies won't do shit since Americans have shown they're absolute morons by electing Trump twice and Republicans constantly. The American people have shown that America is too stupid to govern.
If by some miracle progressives and non-republican Democrats get elected into majority power they'd be better off simply passing legislation to ensure Republicans can never have power again if they actually want to get the world to trust America again.
It is in many ways frightening to think that a population that is largely uninterested in what happens in the wider world gets to vote for the president who holds the most power in the entire world
I used to be a pacifist. This goddamn regime killed that pretty damn quick.
Look to Hungary for advice. We're trying to systematically clean out every trace of the old regime. It's not easy and probably won't be perfect but people are being arrested.
Reading the comments here, It seems my disabled, poor ass is never going to get to leave the USA, even if I had the means. I voted against the orange regime and it's similar evils over the years.. And yet, I will be condemned to the mass grave that is soon to be America. I guess know that I genuinely tried my best, from talking relatives on how the orange was evil, to helping people vote for candidates that aligned more with the world's values, and protested even if it wasn't on the street, it was in my own way.. Because I'm disabled in the USA.. and it sometimes difficult to even survive, let alone topple an evil regime. But if I am to be lumped in with rest of the pigs if the US.. I guess. When you find my body, you'll wonder how a human got in the pig mass grave.
Yep! That's how it goes.
You can see something similar if you look at Ukraine threads talking about Russians, or Gaza threads talking about Israelis.
Humanity sure has a lack of humanity. Its.. Really not fair. I've been against this type if evil all my life.. And my reward is that get to die with them.. It really isn't fair... Like comicly unfair. For me nor for them. So why try anymore?
We continue to try because it is our duty to humanity. We struggle because it is right to struggle for goodness. And together we hope that by our struggles we can impact the world for the better and move towards an international community of those who struggle for goodness.
The evil wish us to despair and stop.
I.. I see.. Ill try, though, I will not be able to do much. Not because I don't want to, but because my body has decided that a little is all I'm allowed to do.
One must imagine Sisyphus happy.
Just wish I knew how he copes with dispare.
Well, there's a whole book about it. Matter of fact, the dude wrote many books on the topic.
Type "one must imagine Sisyphus happy" into your search engine of choice.
Did some reading. I've suffered most of my life and I've watched my own boulder roll down the hill many times. It seems Sisyphus didn't have any physical conditions that made it harder each time. No wonder he is happy. He is struggling, but not in pain that isn't self inflicted. So he can take his happy ass and keep on a pushing like a mother who continues to raise thier kids despite those kids draining everything they held dear. Or the a farmer who enjoys the tough summer days.
But, me, all my strength was taken from me via disease. All my stamina snapped away due to a body who aches to die but a soul that stays alive because my death would mean the sarrow for many.
As much as I sacrificed, as much as I suffer, and as much cry out in pain only known to a select few, there is no reward, there is no peace, and there is no happiness.
He can stay happy, he is a useful machine to those in power. Contact me when he figures out that the gods themselves are the evil ones.
Hmm. Well, it is pretty clear you didn't do any reading.
Sorry I didn't read the entire book. Too busy trying to not being in pain and trying to survive in this helish world and trying to maximize my time with family, friends, and people who loving me instead of reading a book that who's goal is to tell me: "life is suffering, be happy about it because without suffering there is no happiness." Absurdism is symptom of gross inequality, not a valid way to live and a excuse to not fight for change. Entropy may be the natural state of the universe, and I will agree fighting it is a fruitless battle, but dancing with it and telling it to fuck off for abit while we fix some problems it caused isn't.
Instead of me wasting time on a damn book, why don't you explain the nuance I missed?
Oh, I'm not implying you didn't read the book. That part is extremely obvious. I'm implying that you didn't even bother skimming the wikipedia article.
Not really sure what I can do with that. Maybe you'll be better off wallowing?
I read the wiki, I read reddit discussions, I've skimmed other essays. I still hold my claims. What do you think I'm missing? I don't wallow in dispair, you act like I have a choice when it is the farthest from the truth. The only reason I have any remote ammount if happiness is that I broke the boulder. Sisyphus is a bitch.
Then it's a problem of reading comprehension, because absurdism is not that. Absurdism is finding joy in action.
The only reason I have any remote ammount if happiness is that I broke the boulder. Sisyphus is a bitch.
Go wallow in your misery then.
Read just fine. I'm glad you find joy on action. For me action causes lots of pain due disability. So I must be selective with action. When you find no joy in action because every action brings you pain, it is very difficult to be happy in the struggle. The actions I do, like responding to you, have meaning becausey literal blood is within them. But there is no joy. I only feel joy something finally eases the pain. I'm sorry your philosophy did not hold against this human.
People still assuming this will just magically over after the next election
Do you think the US needs to apologize just because of Trump?
Every History book is full of things that the US should already been accountable for
Oh I could give a laundry list of shit that America needs to apologize for.
The difference is, no one is placating us anymore... or no one should.
And yet they did not.
Yes, but
It will never go back. The new US will need to learn to be one of many at the table. A powerful one by all means, but one of many nevertheless. The ability to dictate terms to others is gone, all of the leverage has been used, for little gain, and the trust isn't there anymore. Everyone has hedged against the US, decoupled, and persued other arrangements.
Europe is gone from the empire and will demand massive concessions to let the US even near its strategic policy. Concessions the US can probably can not pay. Remember, the US started a war with the Russians on Europe's doorstep and then not only abandoned it's allies, it threatened to invade from the other side (and is still doing so). Europe deployed against the US. The US is openly hostile - an enemy of Europe. There's no coming back from that.
For better or worse the US is on its own now. Allies are theoretical at best. On its own the US is a western hemisphere regional power. The global power it enjoyed came from the alliances and it was paid for by the economic interdependence of the alliance system. That system is over.
The dominance of the USD is done, that was based on trust, trade is no longer conducted in USD exclusively and currencies no longer route through USD. With the reserve currency status destroyed, the US will have to learn to pay it's bills like everyone else, from productive work. No more printing money to pay debts on printed money.
Without those things trillion dollar military budgets are out of the question, global force projection becomes impossible. Even enforcing Monroe is probably impossible, the Chinese and Europe are already making inroads in south America and as those investments increase so will the need to protect those.
So apologies are necessary for a reset of relations, yes. But those new relations will look very different from what we have known. It's a multi polar world now and the US sphere of influence is shrinking to just north America, and even there, the other two countries are not on board and are moving towards EU.
The future is one of US decline and it's up to Americans how they want to navigate it. Learn to live with the others or fight a losing battle against everyone. Or end the world.

Hopefully there will be no next president. Let the country end with this one.
No. Just fucking fix everything.
They won’t.
We are seeing 'the fix'. It took some years since Occupy, but this is the capitalist response.
Fix America for good. We are watching. A personal apology tour will not be needed, as long as this president will fix what is broken, inside the US and in international relations.
I honestly don't see America lasting long enough to get another president if he tries to remain in office. Not that he would be able to manage it, but the calamity would be enough to make it all fall apart. As it is, it's hard enough finding a job right now. And those that do have jobs are struggling to get by as it is. America's already being dismantled, and there's just no way Democrats win for the next 40 years in a row to fix it. But our infrastructure was already shit, and it keeps getting worse because nobody's willing to spend the money to get it done. Between that, election rigging, natural disasters due to climate change, our failing economy... It doesn't look good and America's best hope is balkanization.
The US so broken that if they want to apologize, SCOTUS, congress, and the senate are have to each as a whole go around to every Provincial capital and apologize on their knees. After they threatened to invade Canada and Denmark we demand no less. The legislative branch is equally guilty, they are just letting this happen. And yes we don't care if it was 51% of the executive branch, the dems are part of the problem.
Somewhat. Reversing a lot of policies and respecting allies again will go a long way, but it's going to take some time. New pathways have already been forged that will leave the usa somewhat excluded and behind. They will be a diminished nation from what they once were, and that would be a good thing, as they no longer shared any values with most of the rest of the world. trump is nothing more than the lipstick on the pig that has become "america".
Friend, the next President of the United States is either going to be Trump, Vance, or Elon Musk.
And there will be no apologies.
Sadly, that’s the direction things are headed.
Strangely enough I almost think the military is our best hope of redemption. Think about it, all the "checks and balances" have failed. The last way our "government" can be redeemed is if the military throws a coup to overthrow the president and host another election. The world cannot see that we are ok with our govemrnent being the way it is without consequence. Will this happen? No. But I do think it's one of the few ways to retain our global credibility that's already all burnt up.
I would
I think that before any apologies can be made, the next president would have to send trump & his entire administration to trial, convict them, and sentence them.
Also, they would have to work on passing legislation to make sure another trump never happens (remove the loopholes, the excess of power to the executive branch, the corruption in all three branches, citizens united, the heritage foundation).
…and then do an apology tour. Apologies would mean nothing, if four years later we’re in a position to do the same bullshit again. We need to prove that we can be stable, reliable, and resilient. Make sure our house is in order. THAT’S the apology the world needs to hear.
Yes, it's going to take a generation to undo all the harm this administration has caused.
If we elect a non-Trump-aligned president, there really is no point to do an apology tour. Obama did it because we could pass the Bush, fils presidency, as a one-off. But after electing Bush twice and Trump twice the world knows the United States can never be trusted again.
Fool me four times, won't get fooled again.