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submitted 16 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) by gedaliyah@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world
 

When the boreal forests of Canada catch on fire, no one can do anything about it in many cases. The forests are part of Earth’s largest land biome, a greenbelt of wilderness that encircles the globe, and they’ve been suffering from the planet’s thermostat being jacked up. Wood-boring pests that flourish in milder climates have swept north and east, through tens of millions of acres. Droughts and dwindling snowpack have stressed the trees. They are ready to burn.

Many people simply don’t grasp the sheer magnitude of the boreal forest or what it would take to manage fires across its enormous area, Jed Kaplan, a professor in the Department of Earth, Energy, and Environment at the University of Calgary, told me: “You can’t control these fires. You cannot put personnel, fire engines, over an area that is the size of the entire American South, or something like that. It’s just way too big of an area.”

And so the fires spread, pouring out smoke that washes over the residents of faraway cities. The “Ontario Armageddon” (as one wildfire newsletter called it), along with several large fires burning in northern-Minnesota forests, has left Toronto with some of the worst air quality in the world this week and has shrouded New York City in a sickly gray haze. Canada has 869 active fires at the moment, and most are burning in wilderness areas where authorities monitor them but don’t try to put them out.

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[–] joecitizen@piefed.ca 29 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Anyone who has ever been in a forest should know how difficult it is to do anything, let alone drive heavy machinery through a forest. Add smoke to reduce visibility and it's near impossible to get bodies on the ground there.

Could Canada spend more on water bombers, yes. Will it stop the fire issue, no. Until the world accepts and addresses our climate problems these fires will only continue to get a worse.

[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 9 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

For a lot of these forests, especially in Northern Ontario, it's not just "next to impossible", it's actually impossible. There are no roads.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 4 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

I don’t get the “especially in Northern Ontario bit.

At least N Ontario has lake systems and navigable waterways, as does N Manitoba. Go further west, and there’s absolutely nothing but forest for thousands of kilometres. You’re not going to be flying supplies and ground crew in, because the only vehicles big enough to get there are too big to land.

The other problem, of course, is that we’ve spent a century and a bit messing with the forests, which used to have regular burns that acted as fire breaks for the next year’s burns. Ground cover grew back thick and green in the ashes, and trees dispersed their seeds.

Now however, we’ve stopped that cycle, leading to overpopulation of insects, buildup of deadwood, and no natural fire breaks, meaning humans have to artificially do all the work that used to happen naturally… right when everything is heating up and weather systems are shifting.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 4 points 12 hours ago

Yeah. Unfortunately, one pretty much inescapable part of the solution to this wildfire problem is wildfires. They need to burn through the backlog.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

The other problem, of course, is that we’ve spent a century and a bit messing with the forests, which used to have regular burns that acted as fire breaks for the next year’s burns. Ground cover grew back thick and green in the ashes, and trees dispersed their seeds.

Now however, we’ve stopped that cycle, leading to overpopulation of insects, buildup of deadwood, and no natural fire breaks, meaning humans have to artificially do all the work that used to happen naturally… right when everything is heating up and weather systems are shifting.

As I understand it, at least some of the fires that had been happening previously were controlled burns by ~~Native Americans~~ First Nations people (sorry, USian talking about Canada), not "naturally" occurring ones.

https://parks.canada.ca/nature/science/conservation/feu-fire/autochtones-indigenous

https://www.nps.gov/subjects/fire/indigenous-fire-practices-shape-our-land.htm

[–] WesternInfidels@feddit.online 26 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Maybe more people should take a look at this fire map from the Canadian Interagency Forest Fire Centre:

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Putting boots on the ground to deal with just one or two of those would be a gigantic undertaking. I don't see how anyone would imagine that much of a dent in the overall problem could possibly be made that way.

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 11 points 14 hours ago

That's... a lot. Here's the US as comparison, and most of these are under some level of control:

map of current US wildfires

[–] breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca 13 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

Thanks, looks like I removed the link when adding the thumbnail. Should be fixed now.

[–] WesternInfidels@feddit.online 8 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

Thank you. Looks like I mistakenly removed the link while editing. Should be fixed now.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Ugh. Vestigial connectors, missing trailing delimiters; this thing was written by an American or someone who doesn't know the difference between their dialect and ours.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago

That's some highfalutin' verbiage just to complain about punctuation.