I swear rotten tomatoes and IMDb fucked up movies and tv more than anyone talks about. You can’t REALLY make an review of a work of art, even if it is corporate produced tripe, with a percentage scale or */10 system, and before anyone comes at me I know it’s been done for decades but it was never a be all and end all thing, critics wrote articles about things and you might disagree with their sensibilities and go see it specifically because a particular critic didn’t like it, the opposite is also true.

At some point though we crossed a line where no one actually reads the criticism and internalizes it, instead they just look at the number and make it either a personal attack or validation. Thats a really bad way to experience art of any kind.

This isn’t a complete thought I feel, but I hate the reality of film and television criticism today, not because critics are worthless, because that’s just silly. If you like something Peter Travers said was dog shit go find a critic that speaks to your taste it’s not difficult and doesn’t mean your favorite movie actually sucks.

Is anyone else getting a little uncomfortable having their confirmation bias put in the spotlight like this?

What's more important than the score is the written reviews.

So many films with bad scores because people didn't "get it", or watched a film that wasn't "for them".

For example, I've seen critics write reviews for the third movie in a franchise, saying they didn't understand what was happening, because they didn't watch the first two.

Seeing it on Sunday!

I do have an issue with the amount of stars in the movie, especially Zendaya, but I'll try to keep an open mind.

I don't care about the historical accuracy or the racial makeup of the cast, all I care about is whether it's a movie I enjoy watching.

My man, If you need your tastes to be affirmed by some magical numbers, then I don't know what to tell you.

See also: everyone driving slower than me is an idiot, everyone driving faster than me is an asshole.

Historically I never had the patience but I've watched a ton of movies over the past couple years (easily 300+) and initially I agreed with audience rating. Although I'm far from an insufferable cinephile and really don't care about underlying theory and whatnot, I definitely find myself agreeing more with critic rating now. Of course there's plenty of exceptions where I disagreed with both. Movies can be fun or awful for you regardless of what anyone else thinks.

That being said, I think Roger Ebert's reviews usually nail it. That man was a connoisseur of weird enjoyable movies and quick to call out corporate crap.

I have a very simple system. If the movie was made for legitimate artistic reasons, then I think it was worth the effort to make it. If the movie was made to sell tickets, I don't bother.

I decide which artistry is legitimate.

Disney movies like zootopia 2 are 100% but v for fucking vendetta is like 70? Wtf RT

Read the "professional reviews" and are like "my daughter liked it so 10/10"

I never look at reviews, I just go in expecting to be disappointed and so usually am not. Even shitty movies are fun since I plan on them sucking..

Update- saw it last night. A bit of a mess, but interesting and enjoyable. I like how it was a retelling of the story but connected it with modern themes. I enjoyed very much the diverse cast, I like performances, and appreciate various takes on the roles from performers with different backgrounds. Dialog was a bit wooden in places, especially the last line, but it was a show, not a documentary so I don’t mind a little ham-fistedness.

The best part was the Trojan Horse portrayal. My whole life I’ve seen the cartoons of a horse rolled up to the gate, and a simple telling of how they were tricked. This put the human cost of it into perspective (the fictional human cost anyway), and the stuggle with how it unfolded by Odysseus. Made me think about it more than I ever have, and from a new perspective.

My partner and I walked out of The Odyssey after ten minutes and got a refund.

WAY too loud. Excruciatingly, painfully, unnecessarily loud. And yet I still had trouble hearing some of the dialogue. We were in an AMC Dolby theater, and I don't think I'll ever go to a Dolby branded theater like that again.

I'm not sure how to split the blame here between AMC, Dolby, or Christopher Nolan, but I'm mad at all three for the ringing in my ear that's still there several hours after we walked out.

Can't comment on the movie itself as we barely saw any of it. Might see it at a different theater but I'll be bringing earplugs just in case, though I may want a refund there too if it's still so loud as to require earplugs.

Nolan really not helping his reputation at being an outright sadist when it comes to sound.

Things to do when bored: arguing about taste.

I have so little incentive to go to the movies these days that any negativity, deserved or not, is just enough.

I watched it, did not care for it. To dark, there were so many points i could not see what was happening, WAY to loud, actually hurt my ears, and, i just did not enjoy it as an experience. Actors are all fine, but there were times where the writing felt clunky or out of place ngl.

I love Man of Steel, needed a bit better editing (because his conflict between helping humanity or not is undermined by pretty early on by helping those offshore workers) but otherwise I think it’s a pretty good movie.

I saw it opening night! I enjoyed it, but I wouldn't call it amazing. Solid 8/10 and no complaints

I think the best approach is to find reviewers whose tastes largely align with your own. Their reviews can serve as a good reference when you’re looking for a movie you haven’t seen yet.

There are simply too many criteria you could apply. The "Cinesiasts", for example—who like films like Citizen Kane or works by Ingmar Bergman, Aki Kaurismäki, and the like—naturally know a great deal about their field. However, that by no means means their reviews would be a good reference point for the general public, who simply want to be entertained and don’t place too much value on artistic merit or the most elaborate technical skills of filmmakers.

RT lost its credibility a long time ago and IMDB just results in the bell curve effect where most things end up at 3.5/5 which is too accurate/condensed for most people.

You need to follow a couple or even just one film critic who makes quality reviews on their own if you want good information.

For me it's more, "I wonder why critics / audience disagree with me?" It's an interesting thing to think about.

I try not to expose myself to any social media surrounding a movie before I watch it. No reviews, no trailers, nothing. Then I compare my experience with others, and it's usually wildly different. It makes me wonder how much of a review is "inertia" from the environment surrounding the movie, rather than the movie itself?

As an example, I absolutely loved the film Chappie. I thought it was a great film, but the general population AND critics absolutely blasted it. I actually agreed with some of their points in the reviews, but overall I still like that movie a lot, and I still rate it 9/10.

If I'd seen the 30% rating beforehand, would I have even bothered watching the movie? Maybe not…

cars 2 is the best one fight me

You forgot the “haha go woke go broke” and “fucking NPC” line. For some reason the people that take movie and game reviews too seriously are those right wing basement dwelling chuds

The Odyssey trailers did not appeal to me much, so I'm confused by the praise it's getting, is it because it's actually good or normies just giving it 10/10 because it's a Nolan movie. I watched Oppenheimer in theater and realized I could have saved the cost of the ticket and watched it at home without losing much, how does this movie compare to that, I've liked most of Nolans other movies except Tenet

I have. I enjoyed the heck out of it, it's a retelling definitely intended for modern audiences with some things removed and additional historical context added.

It's an excellent telling of an old story that reminds you that the Iliad was not truly glorious, and those that go to war will not come back the same.

What's really crazy to me is with movies like that that get drug through the social media culture war bullshit, all the people arguing about "how they should have made the movie" never seem to realize that they don't get a choice about how anybody makes their movie. The movie-makers choose how they make their own movies, not the culture warriors or critics.

People should really back off and shut up about it all. "They should have done this, and the ending was all wrong" and so on. We don't get a say in any of that. We just get to view the art that artists have created, and you can like it or not like it. That's it.