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[–] shittydwarf@piefed.ca 76 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago

I admire your optimism.

[–] tidderuuf@lemmy.world 38 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Democrats will likely win but then they'll remember who holds their purse and the billionaire Epstein-class will tighten their grip on us plebs even more.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Only if people don't vote in primaries...

That's the part I never understand, all these fucking accounts saying it's not worth fighting before the general, complete fucking silent during the last primary, and won't dona damn thing before the next one in two years

If shits half as bad as you all say it is:

Go fucking volunteer with your state party and make it better.

Sitting online telling anyone with a D by their name is the same is the shit Republicans and Russians pay people money to do; don't do it for free.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I’ve been voting in primaries since the year 2000. When will it start to work?

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

When there's enough people doing similar.

It's almost as if you don't count at all unless you vote. Amazing really.

If there are that many unhappy people then a difference actually could be made. Assuming they do anything.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It really is mind-melting to see how liberals respond to the Clintons relative to Trump.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What, voting for them and then ragging on them non-stop for stupid shit like ending welfare and supporting Iraq II: Nookyoular Boogaloo?

You know he ran against Bush the I and Bob Dole, right. And she ran against the demented rapist crook.

Seems pretty straightforward really. Unless you meant the Australian Liberals, then, probably, yeah.

Yeah yeah, primaries, Bernie, DNC, i got ya. But look - on voting day a competent liberal is better than an incompetent rapist sycophant, n’est-ce pas?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

You know he ran against Bush the I and Bob Dole, right.

Then worked hand-in-glove with Phil Graham and Larry Pressler to dismantle the US regulatory state, sure.

And she ran against the demented rapist crook.

How the Hillary Clinton campaign deliberately “elevated” Donald Trump with its “pied piper” strategy

But look - on voting day a competent liberal is better than an incompetent rapist sycophant, n’est-ce pas?

First show me some of the former. A congo line of Andrew Cuomos and Gavin Newsoms and Gretchen Whitmires and Bob Menendezes and Michael Flynns have not been kind to the liberal party over the last generation.

How many Democrats spent a decade sucking up to Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg for a bucket of money, back in the Obama Era? How many worked hand-in-glove with Amazon and Boeing and Palantir, in the name of economic growth? How many sat on the board of Walmart and Goldman Sachs and Ford Motor Company, while pretending a liberal populism?

At some point, you have to take the blinders off.

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[–] Major_Tsiom@fedia.io 36 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

No. The last chance was 2024. They lost. That was the last fair election. There is no way that the fascists have come this far and gained total control only to give it up because of an election.

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There's one way to defeat them and everyone knows what it is

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

Bend over, drop trou, spread them cheeks, and shout, "you are defeated!"

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 31 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Democrats are complicit. They have no motivation for the bulk of the citizenry to win.

[–] oozynozh@sh.itjust.works 29 points 3 weeks ago (12 children)

establishment Dems, sure. but there are insurgent leftists winning national primaries all over the country.

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

My only concern is the money musk is pushing for the right. Money equals votes and always has, the dnc refuses to help anyone not establishment. I hope the money won't matter, but I think it will.

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[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago

Im hopeful but the show aint over til the lady sings in November and we have a fascist wannabe dictator in office who can convince people to be violent.

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[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago

Lets give the DNC football to Lucy. This is for the game, folks. It's all up to Charlie Browns kick.

[–] Bakkoda@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Voters do. Democrats don't. This is a voter issue at this point and framing it like a political party is gonna come save you is why people are apathetic.

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[–] thethrilloftime69@feddit.online 23 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)

What exactly have the Democrats done to inspire any confidence?

[–] FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Nothing at all, but the progressives, the Democratic socialists, and the greens and everyone else who is fighting tooth and nail in the trenches against the far right extremists and chuds are giving it their all

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 weeks ago

Aside from excellent trending in rights, the economy, safety, education, and jobs, compared to the only alternative, well, nothing at all.

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[–] corbindallas@fedinsfw.app 22 points 3 weeks ago

worthless fucking article

democrats are the FUCKING PROBLEM

citizens have to fix this

[–] ChristerMLB@piefed.social 17 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

"a landslide defeat for President Donald Trump in November’s midterm elections is exactly what is required if the country is to start reversing his deliberate and rapid erosion of its democracy"

that... seems unlikely to me. I mean, he's not popular, but his approval ratings aren't significantly worse than the last time he was president.

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[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 16 points 3 weeks ago

It would help if they publicly said they will remove him and his criminals from the government. I don't wanna hear anything about it being a time for healing and reaching across the isle.

[–] BigMacHole@thelemmy.club 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Don't forget to vote BLUE no matter WHO! UNLESS the Blue PROMISES to make your Life BETTER then DONT VOTE AT ALL!

-Democrat Leadership!

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[–] blattrules@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

“Democrats have one chance” …so we’re fucked.

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Why does anyone think there are still chances left?

edit: to clarify, I mean there are no more chances to "halt the erosion of US democracy"--it done eroded already. We're starting over now. The only thing we don't know yet is whether the coming elections will be free and fair. If they are, we can start rebuilding with a new movement to replace the old failed parties. If not, other steps will wind up being taken, one way or another.

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[–] sportsjorts@lemmy.zip 10 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Fully believe Trump will send ice and militias out to attack polling stations or something like this.

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh look it’s this headline again. Just like every election in my entire life.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Yeah totally, everything going on right now is the same as it's always been, very astute observation.

[–] chahn.chris@piefed.social 5 points 3 weeks ago

Well yes, but also the current corruption level is way more public and way more massive than I can remember in my many years on this space rock.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

This comm got so weird when the ml’s started camping next to the spawn points.

[–] NekoKoneko@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

I'm reading this comment section and shaking my head.

I mean, Democrats deserve a lot of crap, and I have and will continue to give them crap, but we're in primary season. I seriously don't get the nihilism and defeatism about a primary. If you want any option in the general, now's your time to vote for who you actually want the most.

How did NYC get Mamdani? Was it burning our vote or discouraging people from voting because the establishment Dems and billionaires wanted freaking Cuomo, and woe is us because the fix is in? No, it was taking a stand and believing that you can make it happen.

We'll have different debates in the general since I'm sure progressives won't win every primary. But right now is the time to send Santa your wish list and stop dooming.

[–] raze2012@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

We still seem to have a lot of "both sides are the same" mentality here, as if there aren't shades of evil out there.

People who still think that after the past 19 months are either complicit with the destruction, severely uninformed (or lacking real perspective), or are letting perfect be the enemy of good. We can critisize (and we should) the DNC while also realizinig their vote is the quicket way to stop the further slide into fascism. If we can find a progressive or DSA or whatnot, even better. But not all races will have those.

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