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๐Ÿคฃ You think your job is pointless? At least you don't "work" at the RAYTHEON ETHICS DEPARTMENT ๐Ÿคฃ Imagine your own coworkers being this astonished to find out that your department exists, "we have an ethics department?? ๐Ÿ˜ฒ"

The guys supervisor is a jackass sure, but "Raytheon ethics department" is just so nonsensically comical I had to share

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I work at one of its sister companies, in the civilian marketshare, and after the merger we all had to take a very specific ethics training about why bribing foreign government representatives is bad.

[โ€“] vrek@programming.dev 13 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I know people who work at Raytheon. It's a hot line for telling on your coworkers. That's it. So you find out Sally used her sister's catering company for a luncheon, you don't like Sally, you call the number, they "verify" and fire Sally.

[โ€“] skunk@lemmy.zip 8 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

They use the ethics hotline to dismantle worker solidarity? Yeah actually that tracks

[โ€“] vrek@programming.dev 7 points 16 hours ago

The logic(and I don't agree with this) is that let's say Sally spent 550 dollars on catering. If she would have searched around she possibly could have found a comparable caterer for 500. By not doing that sally effectively stole 50 dollars.

[โ€“] mtpender@piefed.social 5 points 16 hours ago

It's the same one the SCP Foundation uses, isn't it?

[โ€“] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 34 points 1 day ago (2 children)

A division of the marketing division no doubt. Like the environmental department at most companies.

[โ€“] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In fairness, I've got friends in my Big Evil Oil Company's Environmental Sustainability and Health department, and a lot of what they do is researching real useful methods for improving the local ecology (after we've wrecked it with construction and extraction).

The caveat, of course, is that they do the work with an eye towards profitability.

As a case in point, a recent project involved cutting the light pollution at remote facilities by upgrading all the lighting fixtures on site. This drastically reduced the ambient light that the site produced. And, as a consequence, it reduced the cost of lighting the facility (because ambient light is an expensive waste product) while also reducing the accident rate (drivers entering and exiting the site didn't have their night vision wrecked as they came and went).

They also ran a project to detect methane leaks along the pipeline arteries. This reduced the ambient methane that the pipelines released, which was good for the environment as a whole and also good because we're in the business of selling methane rather than leaking it. The cost of the surveillance and repairs was superseded several times over by the value of the methane we retained.

The flip side of this is how anything seen as cost-positive (or labor intensive and cost-neutral) tends to be ignored.

We need a mole in that organisation feeding government entities the ideas that are discarded for cost.

[โ€“] skunk@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Not even that, I googled it it's the "Ethics and Compliance" department. It's just a legal fig leaf. There isn't even the pretense. Or it's just a honeypot to fire everyone who has moral qualms.

[โ€“] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago
[โ€“] Promethiel@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

It's an offshoot of HR. Every company with more than 500 employees has an "Ethics" hotline.

[โ€“] Steve 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Morality and ethics are two different things. Ethics department is probably mostly about protecting them from internal lawsuits and whatnot.

Raytheon keeps around an ethics department for the same reason Satan reads the Bible.

[โ€“] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

You have it all wrong, they enforce the company's strict ethical standards by making sure nobody behaves too ethically. Someone has to make sure those puppy murder quotas are met!