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[–] Dookieman12@piefed.social 105 points 6 days ago (2 children)

That depends on who you ask. Billionaires think it works great.

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 44 points 6 days ago

Working precisely as intended.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 90 points 6 days ago

the system works exactly as it's supposed to, which is why it must be destroyed.

[–] RockBottom@feddit.org 62 points 6 days ago (33 children)

STOP. ELECTING. CAPITALISTS.

[–] Murse@slrpnk.net 46 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (7 children)

Yeah this is way beyond voting. Even in the context of just voting, it's often necessary to vote for a lesser evil. Case in point, all the "Kamala didn't earn my vote!" dipshits who handed Trump the presidency on a silver platter.

You gotta make strategic choices with voting, and sometimes that kinda sucks.

So do that. But also break out the guillotines when the people you voted for start behaving maliciously. That's what we're failing, and that's why things have gone so far shit.

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[–] weeeeum@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago (3 children)

"Stop voting for those you have no choice but to vote for"

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 35 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The system does work. Perfectly. For those who installed it. Which are the top 5%.

[–] Sp00kyB00k@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago

The system does work as intended. Sadly, it was not designed for us.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 17 points 5 days ago

There is a nuance to make here.

Children staying at home longer isn't a bad thing per say. Most of the world is like that.

Children staying at home because they have no choice is a big issue, because it was possible before.

[–] Bieren@lemmy.today 18 points 5 days ago

But like 7 white dudes have all the money on the planet. Things seem to be just fine.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 39 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The system works fine. Just not for us.

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[–] Aedaz_@lemmy.zip 25 points 5 days ago (2 children)

33 here.

At least I get along with them really well

[–] quarkquasar@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago
  1. At this point I may as well stay and make sure they don't kill themselves by being old.

They sure make the attempt.

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[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 40 points 6 days ago (2 children)
[–] Hackworth@piefed.ca 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

A system can become disordered, acting counter to its evolved purpose, sometimes in a way that's fatal to function. I wonder if historians have a DSM for governments/societies.

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[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago

A healthy, broadly educated population, which feels safe and secure, is incompatible with, and toxic to, conservative and authoritarian ideologies.

They need you to be sick, stupid, and scared.

[–] FluorideMind@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I feel like I was lied to all through school. Work hard, get good grades, and everything will work out.

Nope, unaffordable rent, suckass job market. I feel like I'm being exploited every day I'm at work, even when I like the job and the people.

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[–] UnLocoPoco@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago (2 children)

This is also evident in germany where most teens live separately from 17 yrs of age and up. Anybody not doing so used to get ridiculed by their friends group. These days teens are increasingly living with their parents again in germany just due to rising costs and lower job opportunities. But hey, AI is cool!

[–] volvoxvsmarla@sopuli.xyz 9 points 5 days ago

Seriously, it was common? I knew only one person who lived by themselves at age 18 and it was someone who went to Hauptschule and became a kindergarten teacher by that age and his step dad paid for the apartment.

At 17, I was still in school for two more years and no one in my school (Gymnasium) lived alone. This was like 15-20 years ago. In my sister's year (she graduated in 2003) I also don't recall anyone living by themselves.

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[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 days ago

It works for the top and that's all we count evidently

[–] kibblebits@quokk.au 19 points 6 days ago

Sure it does. It works as intended. Thinking otherwise makes a person the fool.

[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 4 points 4 days ago

Nah, it’s working EXACTLY as intended. It’s intended to make the rich richer and the poor poorer

[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 13 points 6 days ago

No you see we have more billionaires than ever, which is a very good thing because shareholders.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago

On the contrary; the system creates divides and imbalances that aid in consolidating power, influence, and wealth to a very small subset of individuals who spend a portion of said power, influence, and wealth to keep it that way.

The system is working exactly as intended.

[–] Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online 13 points 6 days ago (5 children)

I'm not going to sit here and pretend that this isn't part of what radicalized me back in the early 2000s.

However, as my world expanded through my life experiences and reading I came to understand that so much of what seems like a natural reward is artificiality propped at the expense of people in other parts of the world. That's the system. Western workers have access to a wide range of material goods with prices kept artificially low because they are produced by workers who are paid less. What manufacturing that exists is much cleaner than it used to be, because the dangerous stuff is off shore, far from our eyes. Hell, we don't even have to deal with the huge mountains of waste we produce! Temporary Migrant workers in agriculture and domestic work fill the same role except it is their labour that is exported cheaply.

I know the meme is about housing and the 'cheaply made goods' apply to that too. I live in a house built in the 1960s that is kind of the icon of cheap and cheerful working class post war period sprawl boom. Block foundation a wood frame with vinyl siding. Cheap to build, but can get expensive to maintain.

I guess all I mean to say is that I hope people who are seeing this problem are not easily swayed back into complacency if the capitalists recalibrate the feed of crumbs they give to the workers to ensure compliance. I hope for an era of world wide worker solidarity as it is the only way to tackle the problems capitalism has left us with.

I'm not going to try and convince people to have the exact same beliefs and analysis as I have because that's silly and futile. I think most people would not find this documentary to be too radical: https://www.storyofstuff.org/

Maybe give it a watch if you have the time and the comparison to depression era housing practices sounded reasonable lol. It's so easy to take for granted how much things have changed in the last 150 or so years in north america, especially post WW2.

(You can save yourself the well acksualy about Henry Ford and his approach to wages in the 1910s. They are an important piece of the puzzle but reducing the cost of consumer goods allowed western wages to stay low by retain buying power so the appearance was of increasing standard of living that was increasing dependant on the ability to exploit global workers.)

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[–] Steve 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (9 children)

What age range is young adult here?
Do we have a link?
I think I found it. A Pew Research Study from 2020 during the height of COVID.

[–] WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I really wish it was a general Lemmy requirement that any post containing statistics be required to provide a source for them unless it's a non-serious community/post.

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