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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 237 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

They're using weapon printing as the wedge, but this is really about protecting all manufacturers.

[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 159 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

This is the thing imo. Come in under “ban ghost guns” but 10 years from now you try to print a new battery door for your remote and get blocked because the design is the property of Samsung.

Fuck Bambu and co, I’ll keep my voron around as long as humanly possible

[–] LilBobbyTables@lemmy.today 36 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

It’s more about protecting companies like Disney, Nintendo, etc, not replacement parts. 3D printing is rife with copyright infringement, and companies like those would absolutely love a way to block their IP from being printed, or to be able to sue those who do it.

[–] Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world 54 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

..and this is why roght to repair laws need to be enforced heavily. If your stupid joystick is broken on purpose so you can squeeze $100 out of me every 6 months, i have a right and duty to correct it for myself and anyone who asks.

(But fr tho stop buying nintendo products. They absolutely arent worth the moral weight and consumer disrespect. Pokemon is an incredibly lazy rpg design meant to sell toys)

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[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 week ago (6 children)

The way I see it, a person can print a company's IP as long as they're not trying to sell it.

What are they going to do, sue me for drawing a picture of mario or making kirby out of clay? Printing for personal use is the same concept.

I could see them going after 3D model designers who post stls of their IP. Personally I think if they're not selling it then it shouldn't be an issue, but I don't think the companies would see it that way, and I don't know exactly where the law stands on it.

This is why they can't simply pass IP laws, but they're sneaking it in with the pretense of "protecting the children" (when most school shootings happen with guns that were legally obtained by the shooter or their parents...)

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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 134 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)
[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 115 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Don't worry. It won't be long before possession of an unregistered 3D printer becomes a crime, too.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I thought this bill did that, but it looks like they crossed out the consumer circumvention clauses anyway.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

That seems like a nightmare to set up.

Feels like people casually mocking car registration by pointing to the Hot Rod from Home Improvement.

I mean, sure. It can be done. But I failed to install a water cooling kit in my computer after a very long and harrowing weekend. I'm not fucking with this.

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

It more like mocking car registration because every neighborhood has a few people who can build you a car from scratch in a day, the city already has several thousand car factories that don't require registration, there's no mechanism to enforce registration, and the cost of building a new car is a few hundred dollars. The motivation for requiring registration is also to stop people from driving full speed into fast food restaurants is custom built murder buggys. Yeah, you don't want people to do that but it's not like it really happens all that often.

Building a 3d printer from a kit is different from building one from scratch. It's basically screwing parts together and plugging colored wires into matching slots.

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[–] stankmut@lemmy.world 94 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

You'd think with a title that says "California just passed a law", that it would actually be about California passing a law. It still has to go through the senate and then get signed by the governor.

Edit: The bill was passed in the Assembly back in May. This is a nearly 3 month old article.

[–] Godort@lemmy.ca 73 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

How would this even be enforced?

Like, it seems like it would be a trivial process to just install a firmware package without the blocks.

[–] sharkteethsandwich@lemmy.dbzer0.com 65 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It's probably just an extra charge they can throw at you if your house ever gets searched. Fuck hobby enthusiasts I guess

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[–] False@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

Digital signatures and closed firmware.

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[–] LilBobbyTables@lemmy.today 62 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I’d love to know how they expect printer manufacturers to do this, given all they do is read gcode. Do the legislation makers even know what a slicer is?

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 74 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I went to a CA committee hearing (and I got to meet Louis Rossmann in the process) and I guarantee you the people supporting this bill and the committee voting on it generally have no idea what the fuck they're talking about.

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[–] Whitebrow@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago

Of course they know what a slicer is. Most of these people existed long before pre-cut loaves were sold at the stores.

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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 57 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

The standards will not mandate perfect efficacy – they will allow for “an acceptably low level of evasion” against a bank of identified design files.

They've just admitted that it won't work. It will rely on a bank of banned designs which means anyone can just modify them until the algorithm doesn't recognize it as such while still being functional or simply make their own designs. Whoever finds a way to evade those restrictions will pass on the word.

Sucks that this will act as a push to lock down 3D printer firmware for everyone else though. Mass enshitification inbound. The only hope I see is that 3D printer manufacturers will simply get out of California as a result instead because the expense of developing such an algorithm and the risk of fines if it is not performing well enough are too great to be worth it.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Any such algorithm would be patched out of a jailbroken version of the firmware in minutes. 3D printers are already running on FOSS, so this is worse than useless. Anyone who wants to print a working gun will be able to do so trivially.

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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 47 points 1 week ago (27 children)

There's pedophiles roaming the streets and no one can afford healthcare or housing but yeah, lets make useless laws to try and regulate 3d printers....

[–] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Roaming the streets? They are sitting in the fucking white house.

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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago (2 children)

OP why are you posting a 3 month old article with no updated information or that needed context that this was in the past? There was a discussion then.

It's almost like you are trying to upset people again for sport, because reddit broke your brain and you think internet points are important. Almost like that.

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think about this a lot.

Sometimes I learn about news that greatly affects my hobby but then notice it's like a month old.

And I wonder - so I share it? Do I sit with it? Do others know about it?

Assuming positive intent, OP thought the former.

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[–] Rolive@discuss.tchncs.de 43 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Good luck with that... 3D printers are not complicated and you could build one yourself if you wanted to.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 weeks ago

Have a friend with one print you one.

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[–] jonesey71@lemmus.org 35 points 1 week ago (4 children)

One of the most common uses for 3d printers is for cosplay props. I wonder if the lawmakers considered how this infringes on the rights of people trying to print prop guns from their favorite video games or anime?

[–] Brimstone@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They don’t even know what cosplays is lol

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[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

They don’t care

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[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 week ago (5 children)

California needs to start pushing laws to shut down hardware stores, department stores, shopping malls, and office supply stores since you can buy things in those places to also create makeshift weapons.

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[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago

Fuck this country.

[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I can't wait for the EU to eagerly adopt this like they do for a lot of these dogshit US decisions.

[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This what happens when a state is controlled by idiots. I wish we had opposition party that were not a bunch of boot licking freaks.

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[–] nullspace@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (10 children)

The first thing they need to add to their DRM thing is those flexible dragons that have taken over half the booths at a local comic con. That and The Rock's head.

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[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Has a 3d printed gun been used in a crime? Ever?

[–] snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] obvs@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Did Luigi Mangione do anything wrong?

News to me.

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[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

Very good point. Planting evidence of a crime is itself a crime. /joke

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

The standards will not mandate perfect efficacy – they will allow for “an acceptably low level of evasion” against a bank of identified design files.

So they except this is basically an impossible task. Essentially they're just going to check that the algorithm can detect the test examples, and then anything beyond that is an acceptably low level of evasion apparently.

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[–] bagsy@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Are we even fucking free any more?

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Just configured my router to block my new printer. Looking up how to set up Linux to block my slicer. Fuck this sucks.

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