The US didn't steal these 
guys rocket tech.
They stole these 
guys rocket tech.
They are not the same.
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I hate to tell you this but most are now
I thought now most became:
"Hey, OP from Germany, why didn't you put a Swastika on there?"
Technically we stole the engineers.
And a few choice prototypes
Remember: "If the flag has yellow, he's a fine fellow. If the flag has white, you're in for a fight."
... I think Hezbollah is gonna put up a fight.
... as well as anyone flying this, at least historically, if not also currently.
Sorry, your vexillologous ditty is dubious.
... also, a purely white flag is the universal sign of surrender.
I don't think you thought this through.
Most of the people flying the no step on snek flag are overweight mouth-breathing dumbassess. Hardly a fearsome fighting force.
your vexillologous ditty is dubious
It only applies to Germany.
Well its based off of a ditty that's meant to be a broad guide for how to not be killed by snakes... just, any snakes, that fit the descriptions in the ditty.
So... its not broadly useful, maybe qualify it?
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I never got the issue with tech being "stolen". Free exchange of information almost always helps everyone. The only class it doesn't help is the capitalist class, which wants rent extraction by gatekeeping human advancements.
There are a great many things to criticise the Chinese state for. Allegedly "stealing tech" or "stealing western IP" however, has to be one of the weakest criticisms (even if it's actually happening).
My dad brings this up when China comes up in conversation and I’m always just like “yeah, and..?” Like if we’re so smart why are they the ones with bullet trains and solar panels and not us?
General topic aside: Because having an idea doesn't automatically mean you get to sell it. China is stratehically subsidising promising sectors to create national champions and subsequently crush foreign competition by flooding the market with dumping priced goods. An intelligent strategy but its seems like a double-edged sword as China doesn't seem to freely share own innovations with others due to competitive reasons.
And in the case of AI models it's straight up deranged to act like China is "stealing" from the US because US corporations trained those models on stolen data to begin with
As an American China doesn't have to steal our tech. They've already surpassed America in every measurable metric except for Gdp and consumption which isn't really a win at all.
Oh I don't know. I think America still leads China in school shootings.
Shots fired!
Also obesity.
every measurable metric except for Gdp and consumption which isn’t really a win at all.
So much of US GDP is tied up in the FIRE sector anyway. Housing is overinflated. Insurance is overinflated. Tech is crazy overinflated. It's something of a joke to say the US is outrunning China when US businesses are touting triple-digit P/E ratios following decades of low-interest borrowing and bailouts.
And with all the consumer goods prices skyrocketing, you have to wonder how long American excess consumption can even last. $4-6/gal gas isn't going to be any kinder to the US Automotive market today than it was during the Bush Admin.
They never tried to steal any tech, they were given tech by the US government for years in return they were to be the one and only source of cheap consumer goods and then trump 1.0 happened and all that was thrown out the window.
China hates trump for a multitude of reason but this one in particular especially.
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Didn't we actually steal Wernher von Braun?
The whole story is fascinating, if more than a little fucked up.
He and his engineering team decided to seek out US troops to surrender to because he didn’t want the Soviets getting their hands on his rocket tech. The US government got him out of the country, forged documents to get him into the US legally, granted him immunity and shielded him from being prosecuted for war crimes and atrocities he was involved in.
because he didn’t want the Soviets getting their hands on his rocket tech
I think it was more him not wanting to be caught by the Russians because it would be a lot more uncomfortable.
Probably both
He was sitting poolside at a resort when an US agent came up to him and said essentially "we found you, we also know where your family is. You can come with us and we'll get you and your family out, or, you can wait for the Russians to find you, which won't be long, and you can see what they do with you. The choice is yours, but make it right now." So he went to the US because he felt his fate was better there. And he wasn't just a scientist who was being used by the Nazis, he was a hardened nazi. He ran factories with slave labor that had executed corpses hanging from the ceiling. The workers had to go down a hallway to check into work where the bodies of sabotauers were on display and they had to punch them on their way onto the floor. He wasn't just complicit in that and how things were run, those were his decisions. (I did a humongous project on the V-2 rocket when I was younger. Would have won the national competition in DC if I would have just answered one question the judges were essentially begging me to answer)
You know, I've thought of a lot of crazy stuff, but I've never once thought about going to a job and having to walk down a hallway where my dead co-workers were hanging for making some mistake and I had to punch them.
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And that kids, is why you should study engineering in college.
So you can be scooped up after the war.
Or before tbh. Engineers and scientists were very capable of getting out when shit got bad for them. Compare that to the lawyers, doctors, and various other folks.
Americans: hi there Europe!
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Americans bought out his contract. He died a very rich man.
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If your "we" or "us" includes the Nazis then you've probably made a mistake somewhere along the line.
Everyone forgets Goddard. He invented what the German scientists perfected after a lot of government investments. The US didn't want to go that way with Rocketry, until the world saw the Germans make it work.
The US set Goddard to work on Jet assisted take off in WWII.
Yeah, fundamentally science and engineering are internationalist collaborative projects.
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